1881 Joseph and Martha Bottomley

[wilcoxon]

Can anyone find this couple in 1881.
 They have lots of children, but I`ve not put them down because they have probably left home by then. 
1851  HO107; Piece: 2241; Folio: 194; Page: 13
Clock Street Oldham above Town
Joseph Battamley  34 cotton spinner b Saddleworth Yorkshire c 1817
 Martha Battamley  34  b Humbry Yorkshire

1861 RG 9; Piece: 3022; Folio: 45; Page: 1
Roundthorn Road, Greenheys.Oldham
Joseph Bottomley  44 cotton spinner b Saddleworth Yorkshire
 Martha Bottomley  43 b Humbry Yorkshire

1871 RG10; Piece: 4100; Folio: 76; Page: 33
13 Nugget St, Mumps, Oldham.
Joseph Bottomley  54 brewer b Saddleworth Yorkshire
Martha Bottomley  53 b Huddersfield Yorkshire

1881 ?
Deaths
Joseph Bottomley Estimated Birth Year:abt 1817
Registration Year:1882  Quarter:Jan-Feb-Mar
Age at Death:65 Registration district:Oldham

Martha Bottomley Estimated Birth Year:abt 1817
Registration Year:1881  Quarter:Oct-Nov-Dec
Age at Death:64 Registration district:Oldham

[CaroleW]

Straw clutching time - Could they be living with a married daughter and be wrongly shown under her married name?

[djm]

Try Lancs BMD at http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk/index.php

Loads of Bottomley deaths in your time frame in Oldham

[heywood]

Hello,

The Joseph and Martha you mention are buried in the same grave in Greenacres Cemetery.

http://apps1.oldham.gov.uk/bacasweb/gensearch.aspx.

Other Bottomleys in the same grave are: George 38 yrs in 1875 and a baby James in 1859. Also in the grave are Hannah Wolstencroft and Annie Wood. Are these your family?

There are also addresses - Martha's is 21 Overens Street but she is not there in census.

Heywood

[wilcoxon]

They did have a George of the right age, and Martha possibly  married a Wolstencroft in 1862.
I just can`t find them in 1881. 

1861 RG 9; Piece: 3022; Folio: 45; Page: 1
Roundthorn Road, Greenheys.Oldham
Joseph Bottomley  44 cotton spinner b Saddleworth Yorkshire
 Martha Bottomley  43 b Humbry Yorkshire
George Bottomley  23 self acting miner cotton b Oldham
 Sarah A Bottomley  22 winder cotton b Oldham
 Edward Bottomley  18  winder cotton b Oldham
Martha Bottomley  17 winder cotton b Oldham **** Wolstencroft  Benjn 1862 ??
John Bottomley  15 cotton piecer b Oldham
 Samuel Bottomley  13 cotton piecer b Oldham
 Emma Bottomley  11 nurse girl b Oldham
 Joseph Bottomley  9 cotton piecer b Oldham
 Sarah Bottomley  7 scholar b Oldham
 Eneas Bottomley  son  5 scholar b Oldham
 Mary J Bottomley  3 b Oldham
 Fred Bottomley  1 b Oldham

[heywood]

No I couldn't either 

[CaroleW]

I couldn't find them either hence my "straw clutching" reply.

[heywood]

1879.   21 Nutter Street. Mary Jane B marries father Joseph Publican

1881.    21 Nutter Street Welcome Inn. Ogden family

1881.     21 Overens Street.  Martha Bottomley burial

1881.      21 Overens Street.  Smithies family

1881.      23 Marsh Street     Riches family

1882.    23 Marsh Street Joseph Bottomley burial


I can't see any JB or MB in workhouse either.

[wilcoxon]

Thanks everyone, but I am stumped. This is only thing I can find.
Marriages Dec 1879   
ATTERSALL  Ben    Oldham  8d 827   
BOTTOMLEY  Mary Jane     Oldham  8d 827   

1881 Mulberry St
Ben Attersall  29
Mary J. Attersall  23

On the same page is  a Joseph Bottomley  37 , but he is not father, and doesn`t seem to be a brother. His age isn`t right.