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James Mottershead
« on: Sunday 05 October 14 20:09 BST (UK) »
Looking for the marriage of a James Mottershead(born Hulme) to Hannah(born Preston) in 1850's. There was a son Adam Spate Mottershead born around 1856 in Manchester.  I cant find any records for him either.
They were in the Hulme area of Manchester in 1861 census with an Elizabeth Dean James was listed as Son. Siblings were George(1860), Harriet(1861), John Thomas (1864) and Robert(1869) None of the siblings appear to have Spate in their name so it is possible that Hannah was married before I cant find any records that match though.

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Re: James Mottershead
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 05 October 14 20:34 BST (UK) »
Hi

Just had a quick look at lancashirebmd.org, although not complete there is a Robert Mottershead born 1869 with mothers maiden name SPEIGHT

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Re: James Mottershead
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 05 October 14 20:45 BST (UK) »
That sounds promising. Thank you

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Re: James Mottershead
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 05 October 14 20:47 BST (UK) »
 was the son b 1850`s actually Adam - if so he was
Adam Spate-Mottershead - a double barrelled name - here is a daughters's baptism
on http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/Search/indexp.html
Baptism: 2 Feb 1879 St Matthew, Manchester, Lancashire, England
Elizabeth Hannah Spate-Mottershead - [Child] of Adam Spate-Mottershead & Mary
    Abode: 12 Grove St.
    Occupation: Calenderer
but - what is a Candelerer ??...new one on me that

ADDED- apologies - I put a sons baptism - it`s a daughter obviously - I have amended my post
but you must be delighted finding out Adam had a daughter as well ??
I think there should be an H in that occupation and he made Chandeliers ??
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Re: James Mottershead
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 05 October 14 20:56 BST (UK) »
If Hannah's mother was Dean - where does the mmn of Speight/Spate come from I wonder.  Perhaps her mother was previously married
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Re: James Mottershead
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 05 October 14 21:02 BST (UK) »
2 more children for Adam Spate - Mottershead and Mary

Baptism: 2 Feb 1879 St Matthew, Manchester, Lancashire, England
Ralph Spate-Mottershead - [Child] of Adam Spate-Mottershead & Mary
    Abode: 12 Grove St.
    Occupation: Calenderer
   ............................................

Baptism: 20 Mar 1881 St Matthew, Manchester, Lancashire, England
Ada Spate Mottershead - [Child] of Adam Spate Mottershead & Mary
    Abode: 34 Tickle St.
    Occupation: Calenderer

moved address by 1881


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Re: James Mottershead
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 05 October 14 21:09 BST (UK) »
is this your James Mottershead baptism ??
Baptism: 5 May 1836 St George, Hulme, Lancashire, England
James Mottershead - Son of William Mottershead & Elizabeth (formerly Weedall)
    Born: 18 Apr 1836
    Abode: Bk.Pryme St. Hulme.
    Occupation: Carter
    Notes: P. Baptism
if so ...he had a brother

Baptism: 3 May 1838 St George, Hulme, Lancashire, England
John Mottershead - Son of William Mottershead & Betty (formerly Weedall)
    Born: 21 Apr 1838
    Abode: Back Prime St. Hulme
    Occupation: Labourer
    Notes: P. Baptism.
Parents' Marriage: Witton near Northwich in 1822  ************************** good info
tells you when parents married and where - so 16 years previous ...so there has to be a few other siblings b 1822 - 1836 presumably in Witton Nr Northwich,Cheshire

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Re: James Mottershead
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 05 October 14 21:20 BST (UK) »
I thiink Elizabeth Dean is James' mother, not Hannah's. She's in Hulme in 1851 with husband Edward and 13yr old son James (surname Dean). There's also a marriage in 1844  Manchester involving an Elizabeth Mottershead and Edward Dean.

ln 1841 Elizabeth Mottershead with 7 yr old son James and Harriet, 15 is in Hulme

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Re: James Mottershead
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 05 October 14 21:23 BST (UK) »
if we have the right James Mottershead baptism in 1836 in Hulme - parents William and Betty
www.familysearch.org
mottershead
baptisms
1822-1836
witton
cheshire
result - all in Witton cum Twambrooks
Hannah 8th sept 1822
Betty 11th jan 1824 b 19th dec 1823
Mary 2nd oct 1825
William 25th may 1828
Thomas 12th sept 1830
Samuel 25th May 1834 - b 5th May 1832
Robert 25th May 1834

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