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Re: Boylan in Glasgow - any suggestions welcome!
« Reply #18 on: Saturday 04 October 14 12:06 BST (UK) »
Hi,came across this and thought perhaps this may be your James Boylan father of Thomas.

Death:

James Boylan
age 32
died:12 August 1898
buried:St Peter's Dalbeth cemetery, Glasgow

Death:


James Boylan
age 27
died:1898
Hamilton,Lanark

Griffiths Valuation 1848-1864:

Lawrence Boylan
townland: Henry Street, Castleblaney
parish:Muckno
county: Monaghan

Hope this helps,Kim

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Re: Boylan in Glasgow - any suggestions welcome!
« Reply #19 on: Saturday 04 October 14 17:13 BST (UK) »
Hi,came across this and thought perhaps this may be your James Boylan father of Thomas.

Death:

James Boylan
age 32
died:12 August 1898
buried:St Peter's Dalbeth cemetery, Glasgow

Death:

James Boylan
age 27
died:1898
Hamilton,Lanark


Hi Kim,

Thanks a lot, especially for the interesting Griffiths valuations link. I had already found the 2nd death, and got a copy of the register, but this James Boylan was a railway platelayer (not a mason), who was single. His parents were Thomas and Mary, so I have discounted that one.

I have tried to find the 1st one you mention, but I can't find it on Scotlands People. Where did you come across this one?

I know this is really cheeky, but could someone with access please confirm that Thomas's mother Margaret, sorry Sarah (thanks for the correction), still has the status 'married' rather than 'widowed' in the 1901 census? Census roll is CSSCT1901_283. Address is 30 Taylor Street.

Thanks again all, for your continued help and suggestions!

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Re: Boylan in Glasgow - any suggestions welcome!
« Reply #20 on: Saturday 04 October 14 17:46 BST (UK) »
Hi

Think you mean Thomas's mother Sarah in 1901 at 30 Taylor Street. They are shown as boarders. She is recorded as married and with occupation of paper bag maker.

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Re: Boylan in Glasgow - any suggestions welcome!
« Reply #21 on: Saturday 04 October 14 18:07 BST (UK) »
Hi

Think you mean Thomas's mother Sarah in 1901 at 30 Taylor Street. They are shown as boarders. She is recorded as married and with occupation of paper bag maker.

William

Thanks William - I did indeed mean Sarah (Margaret was her mother)! Forgive me, its been a long day  ;)
Thanks for the info though, which suggests James was still alive at that point.


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Re: Boylan in Glasgow - any suggestions welcome!
« Reply #22 on: Saturday 04 October 14 19:41 BST (UK) »
Hi again,
What a pity about the 1898 death of  a James Boylan, although obviously the age was a good bit out.

What I'm finding a bit odd is that other than the marriage cert you have and Thomas's birth cert we don't actually have any other trace of James. :-\

Looby :)

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« Reply #23 on: Monday 06 October 14 11:18 BST (UK) »
Hi, found the 1st James Boylan on Scotlands people in the Catholic records.Is there any possibility that James may have emigrated and told Sarah he would send for her and didn't? Hope this helps,Kim

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Re: Boylan in Glasgow - any suggestions welcome!
« Reply #24 on: Saturday 11 October 14 08:39 BST (UK) »
Thanks again for the recent thoughts and updates.
I am wondering about two possibilities - either, as Kim suggested, he emigrated and his wife never saw him again, else James was a middle name, and he was also known as something different, possibly death registered with the different name?
I agree it is strange that we only have these 2 records of him.

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Re: Boylan in Glasgow - any suggestions welcome!
« Reply #25 on: Saturday 11 October 14 09:08 BST (UK) »
Hiya,
Yes it's very possible that James Boylan emigrated and either died or disappeared!
I think you need to find him on a Census because all you have is his marriage cert (when you would assume he would have provided the information) and his name on Thomas's birth cert.
I think it's odd that we have found his "parents" Lawrence and Charlotte and yet we haven't found him with them on the 1871 /1881/1891 Census.   
Looby :)

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« Reply #26 on: Saturday 11 October 14 09:30 BST (UK) »
Oops - Just rechecking information on this thread and noticed I've made a wee error. Sorry :-[

In 1871 James Boylan aged 10 with parents John and Mary-Ann is living at 7 Eglinton Place which is the same address as Laurence, Charlotte and their 3 sons.  This address would more than likely have been a tenement split into small flats. The families are definitely not in the same household as I have looked at original for James. The other Boylans although at same address must be on the next page  ::)
Having 2 Irish Boylan families in one building, I would strongly suspect the 2 were connected. It also makes me wonder about this boy James who at 10 must have been born circa 1860/61.   I wonder what became of him??
Looby