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A mystery word on a baptism record - maybe Latin?
« on: Saturday 27 September 14 14:04 BST (UK) »
Can anyone decipher this word for me, please? It is under a date of birth that is clearly written in the margin of a christening record of 1861. The person being baptised (in Yorkshire) was born in Ireland, maybe Killarney, but I can't find any place on the map that looks like this word. Or perhaps it is a Latin phrase? Any suggestions as to what it says would be most welcome.

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Re: A mystery word on a baptism record - maybe Latin?
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 27 September 14 14:18 BST (UK) »
Tralee?
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Re: A mystery word on a baptism record - maybe Latin?
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 27 September 14 14:43 BST (UK) »
I had been convinced it began with an E. Having looked again at the map, Tralee would make sense. Thank you, that was quick! I'm still not entirely sure though - I think I'll wait a bit, in case there are any other suggestions, before I mark this query 'completed'.

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Re: A mystery word on a baptism record - maybe Latin?
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 27 September 14 14:54 BST (UK) »
It ends in (**alee) but not sure I see a T or an R in it? Can you show us a bit more to compare letters?
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Re: A mystery word on a baptism record - maybe Latin?
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 27 September 14 22:33 BST (UK) »
I'm attaching a word (Elizabeth) taken from the baptism certificate which is the same clergyman's handwriting - the E is distinctive.

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Re: A mystery word on a baptism record - maybe Latin?
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 27 September 14 22:36 BST (UK) »
This is another word (The) written by the same clergyman but in a letter he wrote about 25 years later - the T is very clear. That's why I'm not sure that Tralee is the 'mystery' word.
Any thoughts anyone?

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Re: A mystery word on a baptism record - maybe Latin?
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 28 September 14 22:42 BST (UK) »
Do any other entries on the page have a similar notation under the baptism date?  Eralee is a girl's Christian name, maybe an alternative Christian name, name of mother, or even maiden name for a person baptised in adulthood?  Clutching at straws!!

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Jenkins: Guilden Sutton/Plemonstall, Manley, Bebington: Cheshire. Wales, Hawarden Fl
Hughes/Jenkins pre-1650 north Wales., possibly Anglesey/ or Huyish of Somerset.
Smith: Somerset, North Curry area.
Dawson: Birkenhead, Lancashire, and USA.
Lawton: Birkenhead, Wirral, Staffordshire.
Jones: Flintshire, Flint
Lea/Newnes: Chirk Mill, Penley, Hanmer, Worthenbury
Williams: Llanbeblig/Caernarvon.
Rowland: Llandrygarn, Anglesey.
Brew/Lewney: Isle of Man
Powell/Bennett/Forward/Coram: Somerset/Wellingto

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Re: A mystery word on a baptism record - maybe Latin?
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 28 September 14 23:13 BST (UK) »
I read it as Ezalee  ???

Yes, I realise the z in this example is different from the same clergy's hand in Elizabeth.    I continue to write my capitalised E as though they are an inverted 3.   Sometimes my z is the long version, ie with a tail below the line, other times it is the short version, all within the line !   I have been transcribing long hand for a number of decades, and I have seen many examples of the same hand taking either option for their 'z' even within the same paragraph. 

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Re: A mystery word on a baptism record - maybe Latin?
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 28 September 14 23:39 BST (UK) »
JM could be on to something !   Ezalee is also a known Christian name as well !
Jenkins: Guilden Sutton/Plemonstall, Manley, Bebington: Cheshire. Wales, Hawarden Fl
Hughes/Jenkins pre-1650 north Wales., possibly Anglesey/ or Huyish of Somerset.
Smith: Somerset, North Curry area.
Dawson: Birkenhead, Lancashire, and USA.
Lawton: Birkenhead, Wirral, Staffordshire.
Jones: Flintshire, Flint
Lea/Newnes: Chirk Mill, Penley, Hanmer, Worthenbury
Williams: Llanbeblig/Caernarvon.
Rowland: Llandrygarn, Anglesey.
Brew/Lewney: Isle of Man
Powell/Bennett/Forward/Coram: Somerset/Wellingto