Frank Rogers Dentist

[sandy feet]

Hello,

Looking for information on my GG Father Frank Rogers into his work as a Dentist in NSW. Where he practiced etc. He married my GG Mother in Townsville in 1901 so I am thinking pre 1900 in NSW. I am  also looking at the possibility of my GG Mother being a teacher. I found a Trove doc -  New South Wales, Australia, Government Gazettes, 1853-1899 for Miss Margaret McGrath retiring from the Public Service Board as a teacher in 1899. She was teaching at Rhine Falls Public School out near the Snowy Mountains.  This may not be our Margaret Ann (Beatrice) McGrath but I have made a few assumptions. Firstly right up until the 1960s women about to marry had to resign from the post of teaching so this may have been a resignation and not a retirement. I believe she lived in a convent and was schooled by the nuns, she would have likely had a good education for the time and possibly an avenue into a teaching Career. In here later life she also ran several busineses which implies she was educated.
 Regards Sandy

[Jennaya]

Hi Sandy,

You are correct about married women having to resign from the public service when marrying.

However, I have found one of my (married) ancestors dying aged in her 50s and still working as a teacher. This was around 1910 or so.

I have always wondered if the rules were different  pre WWI. Perhaps the resignation rules came in later.

Someone else on this forum may know the answer.

Regards
Jennaya

[Jennaya]

Here's a newspaper article about the retirement

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/119026803?searchTerm

[Jennaya]

Hi Sandy, do you know where she was born?

[sandy feet]

Hello Jenaya,

Margaret was born in 1875 in Rangiora New Zealand.

Regards Sandy

[majm]

http://www.records.nsw.gov.au/state-archives/indexes-online/professions-and-occupations/teacher-rolls-1868-1908

“Many people have teachers in their family. The Teachers' rolls, 1869-1908 (NRS 4073) are one of most useful sources for researching individual teachers in the later half of the nineteenth century. They provide a service record for each teacher and include date of birth, examination results, appointments, promotions and date of resignation. The index contains 14, 867 entries.”

http://srwww.records.nsw.gov.au/indexsearch/searchform.aspx?id=73 

There are instances in my own family (NSW western division) where the female teacher remained teaching after her marriage, especially where it was in a rural locality, and the head teacher was her husband…… These instances were both before and after WWI.    I am not sure what would have occurred if these women were in a metropolitan public school, and none were teachers at High Schools.   There's two entries at the index linked above, by the name of Margaret McGarth.  That index covers 1869 to 1908. 

ADD

I just checked the index again, this time entering only "Mrs" (in the remarks column) and leaving the other options blank....   Pages and Pages of returns for Mrs, some giving the married name and not just the maiden name.

Second ADD
http://www.atua.org.au/biogs/ALE1153b.htm    NSW Teachers Federation website, perhaps they will be able to help.

Cheers,  JM

[majm]

Looking for information on my GG Father Frank Rogers into his work as a Dentist in NSW. Where he practiced etc. He married my GG Mother in Townsville in 1901 so I am thinking pre 1900 in NSW. I am  also looking at the possibility of my GG Mother being a teacher.

What was your GG Mother's occupation as per her marriage certificate?   

Cheers,  JM

[judb]

Married women had to resign as a permanent officers but could be employed as a temporary.  My aunt worked as a temporary clerk in the same position as civilian support for the RAN for 40 years. In the early 70s I was unable to be a permanent teacher ion NSW as I would not agree to be sent anywhere in NSW.

Judith

[majm]

Hi there,

"Letters of administration in the lands and goods of Frank Rogers, late of Townsville, dentist, deceased, intestate who died on 26th November  were on Saturday morning granted by the Registrar (Mr C S Norris) at the Supreme Court to Margaret Beatrice Rogers, widow of the deceased."   
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/58176753  Townsville Daily 13 Jan 1913.

Frank ROGERS, dentist died 26th November 1912.  His widow was Margaret Beatrice ROGERS.


Frank ROGERS parents are recorded as Edwin ROGERS and Alice Harris MILLS as per the Qld BDM index for deaths

Frank ROGERS and Margaret Beatrice McGRATH married 15 July 1901 as per Qld BDM index for marriages. 

Margaret Beatrice ROGERS parents are recorded as Vincent McGRATH and Margaret Harwitto TURNER as per the Qld BDM index for 1932 deaths.  (#C249)


This thread is on the NZ completed board, but Sandy mentions that she has the  1901 marriage cert and the 1932 death cert.
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=619367.0 

On this thread Aussie1947 has found Frank Rogers in Townsville on the 1896/7, Frank was a Dental Surgeon
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=620317.0

Cheers,  JM