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Re: Shot in the dark. John Murphy 19 Lower Camden Street Victualler.
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 03 May 20 20:52 BST (UK) »
Hi everybody,

I know I'm very late to this chat by a few years, lol!, but I'm looking for some info. on these people also. Does anybody have a birth certificate for a Mary Anne / Mary Murphy, a daughter of John Murphy jnr.? I have found birth certs for some of John and Julia's other children but I cannot locate this one. Mary is my GG grandmother. Thanks in advance for any replies!

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Re: Shot in the dark. John Murphy 19 Lower Camden Street Victualler.
« Reply #10 on: Monday 04 May 20 11:45 BST (UK) »

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Re: Shot in the dark. John Murphy 19 Lower Camden Street Victualler.
« Reply #11 on: Monday 04 May 20 15:22 BST (UK) »
Hi Gab_meister.
My great grandmother was Anne Teresa Murphy. She had a sister Mary who married John Butler. Mary seemed to have lived in Howth for a while but I can't find any more. There was also a sister Lizzie that married a Norton they has a diary farm in Sillogue. Their brother George never married and died at his home at 61 Synge Street. George's will is on he National Archive website. He left some money to my great grandmother.
Julia's parents Morgan Farrell and Roseanna White were from Eadestown  and they  had a dairy at 10  Cuffe Street. Don't know about John Murphy but I think he may have come from Harolds Cross or. Rathfarnham but I cannot prove for sure.

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Re: Shot in the dark. John Murphy 19 Lower Camden Street Victualler.
« Reply #12 on: Monday 04 May 20 21:18 BST (UK) »
Hi Dubchick,

Thanks so much for your prompt response! I have found a baptismal cert for who I believe is my GG grandmother Mary Anne Murphy. She was named as Marianna Murphy and born in 1859 in 32 Denzille Street to John Murphy and Julia Farrell. I know that she married John Butler and that they had six children and lived in Howth for a while. John Butler was from Belan, Moone, Co. Kildare and they settled there eventually sometime between 1906 (when their youngest child was born) and 1932 when their daughter Eileen married. Mary and John Butler are buried in Moone along with most of their children and descendants.

I knew that Mary had siblings called George and Elizabeth but I had never heard of Anne Teresa Murphy until now! How interesting! I also did not know of Morgan Farrell or Roseanna White before. Thank you so much for your help! Much appreciated!

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Re: Shot in the dark. John Murphy 19 Lower Camden Street Victualler.
« Reply #13 on: Monday 04 May 20 22:30 BST (UK) »
Marriage of John BUTLER of HOWTH and Mary  Anne MURPHY of 61 SYNGE ST on 23 April 1895
Father   Edward BUTLER   John MURPHY
Mother   Mary FENNELL   Julia FARRELL

https://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/display-pdf.jsp?pdfName=harrington-street_mf_1865-1912_ma_0317

Baptism same address

Josephina MURPHY
Date of Birth   8 March 1880
Address   61 SYNGE ST
Father   Joanne MURPHY
Mother   Julia FARRELL
https://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/display-pdf.jsp?pdfName=harrington-street_mf_1865-1890_ba_0361







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Re: Shot in the dark. John Murphy 19 Lower Camden Street Victualler.
« Reply #14 on: Monday 04 May 20 23:02 BST (UK) »
Is this the correct marriage for John Murphy & Julia Farrell?

Marriage of Johannes MURPHY of 19 LR CAMDEN and Juila FARRELL of 51 CUFFE ST on 16 May 1858

Father   Johannes MURPHY   Pelagai FARRELL
Mother     Maria                           Rosannae
https://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/display-pdf.jsp?pdfName=st.nicholas_mf_1822-1880_ma_0122
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Re: Shot in the dark. John Murphy 19 Lower Camden Street Victualler.
« Reply #15 on: Monday 04 May 20 23:27 BST (UK) »
Yes that's them. Pelagai is Morgan.
St.Pelagius is also know St.Morgan.

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Re: Shot in the dark. John Murphy 19 Lower Camden Street Victualler.
« Reply #16 on: Tuesday 05 May 20 13:05 BST (UK) »
Dubchick

The Irish Times for 25/10/1900 Page 5 Police Intelligence Column contains a reference to a Teresa Murphy.
In addition I have 5 references to Morgan Farrell , shall we say relating to his activities, which can be yours upon request.

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Re: Shot in the dark. John Murphy 19 Lower Camden Street Victualler.
« Reply #17 on: Tuesday 05 May 20 13:23 BST (UK) »
Quote from: felixquaxer on Tuesday 05 May 20 13:05 BST (UK)
Dubchick

The Irish Times for 25/10/1900 Page 5 Police Intelligence Column contains a reference to a Teresa Murphy.
In addition I have 5 references to Morgan Farrell , shall we say relating to his activities, which can be yours upon request.

FelixQuaver
Oh yes please.  Found some articles in the freeman's journal before  re: weights and measures act,  death notices for him and his wife but not 5 references. Would love to see please.

My great grandmother's name was Anne Teresa she was know as Anne. She was married in 1894 so her surname was different by 1900. So the Teresa Murphy in 1900 wouldn't  be my great grandmother.

Thanks again

Many thanks.


Felixquaxer
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