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Re: Look up for Caroline Mabel Thomas born 1932
« Reply #18 on: Saturday 04 October 14 00:25 BST (UK) »
Thank you for the reply JM.
The Marriage took place at St.James Church on
5th July 1930 and the officiating Minister is
recorded as John Fraser S.Russell.
The certificate is also signed by Deputy Registrar- AlexBaylis (?)
If I can I'll try to scan and attach a copy of the
certificate I have.

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Re: Look up for Caroline Mabel Thomas born 1932
« Reply #19 on: Saturday 04 October 14 00:36 BST (UK) »
Hi there,

Re the certificate you have .... is it a recently issued document, or is it one issued during the 20th century?

The official transcription agents can issue partial transcriptions or full ones, depending on what is ordered.   The occupations of the bride and the groom should be recorded by the Rev'd, and I would expect these to be displayed on a full transcription.

Add, the name of the suburb for the usual residences for the bride and the groom would have been sufficient information in 1930 at that time.  Some clergy provided more in depth info than others.


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Re: Look up for Caroline Mabel Thomas born 1932
« Reply #20 on: Saturday 04 October 14 02:37 BST (UK) »
The father of Kerry Packer was called Frank Packer.

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Re: Look up for Caroline Mabel Thomas born 1932
« Reply #21 on: Saturday 04 October 14 02:51 BST (UK) »
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I have what I now believe to be a transcription
 only as it doesn't include addresses - very annoying
as I ordered this in the belief it would be a full certificate
but my mistake completely .

I think you are barking up the wrong tree here with your concept that you are missing out on a "full address".   

None of the marriage certificates I have include what you would normally consider to be a complete postal address.   From an official point of view,  it's not very relevant,  as it is neither the location of the event,  nor is it likely to be the place where the parties might be found after the event,  as most people move as soon as they are married.  From the clergyman's point of view,  the traditional concern is whether they are "of this parish" or not,  which goes back to ensuring they have been baptised, and a precaution against bigamy.

If the marriage certificate says he was from Sydney and she was from Balgownie (  which is correct,  you mentioned Balgowrie in one of the other posts ),  that is probably all the clergyman wrote down.

You are much more likely to get a proper address from your mother's birth certificate,  which you will have no trouble obtaining as you are her daughter.



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Re: Look up for Caroline Mabel Thomas born 1932
« Reply #22 on: Saturday 04 October 14 03:28 BST (UK) »
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BTW do you happen to know whether on arrival in Sydney in 1929 you needed to have an address to go to

I very much doubt it,   that is a crazy idea the Americans have come up with recently.

I was almost deported from the US a few years ago because I did not know the street name or number or zipcode of the hotel I had a reservation to stay at - that's the taxi driver's job.

It's a world without fax, phone, or email,   and even in the steam-ship era you won't know in advance exactly which day your ship will arrive.

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Re: Look up for Caroline Mabel Thomas born 1932
« Reply #23 on: Saturday 04 October 14 04:26 BST (UK) »

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BTW do you happen to know whether on arrival in Sydney in 1929 you needed to have an address to go to

I very much doubt it,   that is a crazy idea the Americans have come up with recently.
I was almost deported from the US a few years ago because I did not know the street name or number or zipcode of the hotel I had a reservation to stay at - that's the taxi driver's job.
It's a world without fax, phone, or email,   and even in the steam-ship era you won't know in advance exactly which day your ship will arrive.[/size]


Many passenger manifests for those arriving in the UK, USA and Canada up to 1960 and available online, list addresses for passengers while residing in those countries.  So certainly not a recent "crazy idea" ::)

I had to detail a US address when entering USA in 1978.

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Re: Look up for Caroline Mabel Thomas born 1932
« Reply #24 on: Saturday 04 October 14 06:00 BST (UK) »
http://www.naa.gov.au/collection/search/index.aspx   (Search as a guest)

The NAA online index has
Mr W THOMAS, embarked London, disembarked Sydney, 1 May 1928 on the Orsova, 
The barcode no. 11443691.

As it is only an index, the actual ship's manifest may hold further info about that passenger.

Cheers,  JM

I seem to have posted the above info on an already existing post, and I suspect I have overwritten my earlier post.   Very sorry.   I should have put my specs on before posting.  :-[




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Re: Look up for Caroline Mabel Thomas born 1932
« Reply #25 on: Saturday 04 October 14 06:18 BST (UK) »
   
None of the marriage certificates I have include what you would normally consider to be a complete postal address.
You are much more likely to get a proper address from your mother's birth certificate,  which you will have no trouble obtaining as you are her daughter.

I have had a good look at several NSW mcs in my collection.  I can clearly read the addresses of both the bride and the groom, and while those addresses do not give a house number, they do include the street name, and the name of the house.    These cover the years between the two World Wars. 

In most instances, when following up those addresses, I have found that the couple were then found to at least start their married life at one or the other of those addresses, which was usually the address of other family members.     

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Re: Look up for Caroline Mabel Thomas born 1932
« Reply #26 on: Saturday 04 October 14 08:40 BST (UK) »
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Many passenger manifests for those arriving in the UK, USA and Canada up to 1960 and available online, list addresses for passengers while residing in those countries.  So certainly not a recent "crazy idea"

... many of whom would have been returning residents,  or people going to visit relatives or people that already knew.   

It would not have been as routine,  practical or normal, 100 or 150 years ago,   to make advance accommodation reservations,  as you would normally do today.  You would turn up on whatever day the ship arrived and then look for a hotel or other lodging when you arrived,  and there would be plenty of guidebooks and ads in the local newspaper and touts to help you with this,   just as there are in many places in the world today.   You didn't need a passportthen, either.