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Re: Boyce Family from Ireland to New Brunswick
« Reply #18 on: Wednesday 10 September 14 18:46 BST (UK) »
And today I finally got a copy of Michael's death record..It lists both parents being from Ireland by no names listed

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Re: Boyce Family from Ireland to New Brunswick
« Reply #19 on: Thursday 11 September 14 00:15 BST (UK) »
Well Polarbear was going to post more about me having the wrong fellow 1855, apologise for that. ..Oh well...At least this way we get you to post more of what you know...

and sorry that the death info didn't have more information for you...
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Re: Boyce Family from Ireland to New Brunswick
« Reply #20 on: Thursday 11 September 14 02:27 BST (UK) »
Oh boy, just lost my post to the ethernet. Will try again.

Michael C Boyce, Cooper, and the Army....

It looks like the Michael C Boyce who enlisted in 1855 was discharged in 1857 because he was a minor, so he must have lied about his age to join up. This same man then enlisted again in 1858, this time at Boston if I remember correctly. Both times he gave his birthplace as St John New Brunswick which would be a fair way from Nelson Parish in northern NB. So it doesn't appear that this Michael is the same man as Minnesota Michael.

In the 1905 Minnesota census Michael indicates that he has been in the enumeration district for the preceding 50 years which would place him there since about 1855.

Baptisms of the siblings....

-Bridget Boyce b. 09 Oct 1826 bapt. 28 Jan 1827. Of lawful marriage of Patrick Boyce and Catharine Hallaran

-Eliza (as written) Boyce bapt. 17 May 1829 age 2 months. Parents Patrick Boyce and Catharine OHallaran

-Catharine Boyce bapt. 18 Jun 1831 age 4 weeks. Parents Patrick Boyce and Catharine Holaran

-Michael Boyce bapt. 28 Aug 1833 age 2 weeks. This is quite close to the birth date posted by JimPeterson and the familysearch transcript has a birthdate of 04 Aug, also close. It is really too bad that the death record didn't name the parents. Perhaps a marrige record might if you choose to go that route.

I didn't see a baptism for Ann but we do have her with Michael and Bridget in the 1852 census. Bridget married James Moran in 1847.

A variety of last names for the mother for sure. Parish records from that time tend to have names spelled as they are heard by the priest. And different priests may hear things differently. At least Boyce is consistent.

The question now is whether these parents belong to Minnesota Michael. Tough call. We don't know if all NB records are on line and so there could be another family somewhere. On the other hand, the closeness of the various quoted birthdates is quite compelling.

What would I do if I were in your shoes? I would try to get a marriage cert when circumstances permitted. You have an approximate time frame with the birth of their first child Joseph. No guarantees that your money will find what you want, of course, but would be money well spent if you get a record with parents.

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Re: Boyce Family from Ireland to New Brunswick
« Reply #21 on: Thursday 11 September 14 02:55 BST (UK) »
Thanks Polarbear for pointing out my error! also to not lose my long entries I now type in word then copy and paste...When the site is busy it often does that to an entry!

JIM You can also go thoroughly through the marriages I gave you for Northumberland to look for the marriage of Patrick before 1826....It is free to do that search...
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Re: Boyce Family from Ireland to New Brunswick
« Reply #22 on: Thursday 11 September 14 03:16 BST (UK) »
Currently I have put in an inquiry to the New Brunswick Historical society (Kathy Wilson) and also one with the Archdioceses of St John.
As far as Michael Boyce and Ellen Hanley Marriage in Minnesota..that is pretty tough to nail down
Hennepin County Mn does not have one..and St Anthony actually borders on Hennepin/Anoka/and Ramsey counties..and the search range is anywhere from 1857 (Ellen Hanley census of St Anthony)
and 1863 which is the year of Joseph Boyce's Birth

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Re: Boyce Family from Ireland to New Brunswick
« Reply #23 on: Thursday 11 September 14 03:31 BST (UK) »
As Polarbear pointed out your lad was not the one from St. John....
 
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Re: Boyce Family from Ireland to New Brunswick
« Reply #24 on: Thursday 11 September 14 12:53 BST (UK) »
Yes I know this..but St John's is where all the records are archived

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Re: Boyce Family from Ireland to New Brunswick
« Reply #25 on: Thursday 11 September 14 18:39 BST (UK) »
That's what I have been told anyway

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Re: Boyce Family from Ireland to New Brunswick
« Reply #26 on: Friday 12 September 14 00:25 BST (UK) »
Here is something that may interest you, deed registry with a Patrick Bois as the Grantor ...as you can see Lot #2 Blackville is mentioned twice... also a Sanford and a Thomas ( Ludlow), and an Angus elsewhere in Northumberland
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-266-11776-129958-25?cc=1392378&wc=M696-KMS:13843201,16722801,19170201

here it does say Boyce, and later looks to say Boyse...  :)
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-11898-36775-39?cc=1392378&wc=M69D-468:13843201,13841702,16202901

Too much flourish for me to read properly...but yes N"orthern Side of Bartholomew River" known as the front part of the lot number two...and also a marked black birch  ;D awe, neat...
I note it is supposed to be signed by Patrick,  :P but it is the same handwriting as the ledger....
For Catherine it does say an X is her mark...

You can look for the other volumes by hitting the blue link to the upper left, then Northumberland, etc...

Bridget Moran's death says she was born Bartholomew River
http://archives.gnb.ca/Search/VISSE/141C4.aspx?culture=en-CA&guid=78a62ff1-5ceb-468e-9ca5-0156e5df66c7
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