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Do you think that 50 years is enough for census protection, bearing in mind that with new technology we can see information on ourselves and our children online, but can't view what our ancestors were up to 95 years ago ?

No
11 (6.7%)
Yes
105 (64%)
Dont care either way
3 (1.8%)
Yes, but it needs some sort of administrative control - i e you can only view desceased peoples details
39 (23.8%)
Would like to take the argument further
6 (3.7%)

Total Members Voted: 161

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Offline TonyR

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« Reply #63 on: Saturday 31 December 05 08:50 GMT (UK) »
Hi all, this thread makes interesting reading, but one thing really puzzles me.  Even if there is a 100 year rule on the 1911 census, why is the release date stated to be 2012?

A hundred years from the 31 March 1911 expires on 30 March 2011.  So why the extra year, is it to prepare the data for release?

I have two probs that the 1911 could answer so would dearly love to see it & really don't fancy waiting six years.

Someone asked earlier if there was one person to contact re early release of 1911 census.   What's wrong with Tony Blair, I'm sure he would appreciate thousands of letters on this subject.  TonyR.
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« Reply #64 on: Saturday 31 December 05 09:07 GMT (UK) »
Just thought I would add my personal thoughts on ID cards and Census release dates.

ID cards - Wouldn't bother me if I had to carry one, infact before I had a driving license I had problems proving my ID as most businesses (DFS, Curry's etc) would not accept my family allowance book as ID even though it carried my full name, husbands name, childs name and dob and my full address.  But I do agree we shouldn't have to pay for them - Not many people objected to carrying ID cards during WW2.

Census - I think a 50 year closure rule would be enough,  I would love to find out more about my Nan, born 1913 - where she was living, who she was living with etc. 
My other Nan is now 92 and she wouldn't mind at all if the census images with her on were released.  (I have asked her!)

Like previous rootschatters have said you can find out almost anything about anyone on the internet now so it seems daft not to release census info after 50 years.

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« Reply #65 on: Saturday 31 December 05 11:53 GMT (UK) »
Why wait fifty years why not ten, the basic information from a census is in the public domain anyway.  At least give access in record offices

ID cards no probs, I have to carry one anyway, can't go to work without one nor leave a building at work without one.
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« Reply #66 on: Saturday 31 December 05 13:15 GMT (UK) »
Hi all, this thread makes interesting reading, but one thing really puzzles me. Even if there is a 100 year rule on the 1911 census, why is the release date stated to be 2012?

A hundred years from the 31 March 1911 expires on 30 March 2011. So why the extra year, is it to prepare the data for release?

I have two probs that the 1911 could answer so would dearly love to see it & really don't fancy waiting six years.

Someone asked earlier if there was one person to contact re early release of 1911 census. What's wrong with Tony Blair, I'm sure he would appreciate thousands of letters on this subject. TonyR.

Because it is actually 100 full years from the end of the year the event occurred.
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« Reply #67 on: Monday 16 January 06 20:55 GMT (UK) »
Just thought I would shove my nose in with an opinion.

Firstly, I am desperate for the 1911 census.  I have so many questions I would like answers to from my grandparents, unfortunately none of them are with us any more.  So I agree, for my own personal gain, that the census should be released early.

As for the privacy side of it.  Well, in this day and age none of us have any privacy.  Big Brother is always watching and knows more about us than we know ourselves.  It is fairly easy to find information about anyone these days, but the information we all crave is kept under lock and key. 

I also disagree with ID cards.  Not that I have anything to hide, I just think that they are just another thing to go wrong.  We already have problems with credit card fraud, identity fraud, etc.  These criminals don't make millions of pounds from scams because they are stupid.  All technology released in recent years has been compromised by hackers/techies, so what makes the identity database held on us all any more secure?  The information intended to be held on the ID cards, if compromised, puts us in more jeopardy than than the release of a 95 year old census!!

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« Reply #68 on: Monday 16 January 06 21:15 GMT (UK) »
I agree with your comment on the census.BUT ID CARDS SHOULD ME MADE COMPULSORY the only people who do not want them must have something to hide.

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« Reply #69 on: Monday 16 January 06 22:02 GMT (UK) »
I don't object to them, I have to have one anyway, but can agree why some people don't want or disagree and we should listen

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« Reply #70 on: Tuesday 17 January 06 00:17 GMT (UK) »
I agree with your comment on the census.BUT ID CARDS SHOULD ME MADE COMPULSORY the only people who do not want them must have something to hide.

 Jim
I have nothing to hide but strongly object to I.D cards.
Why?
Because I.D. cards make fraud and identity theft easier for criminals, there is only one document that has to be obtained or forged instead of several as now.
It will also make proving any illicit use of a forged I.D. card almost impossible to prove at a later date.

See -
http://tinyurl.com/7wzlt

on similar lines
http://tinyurl.com/9szpr

ID cards would certainly not have stopped the 9/11 outrage the terrorists used their own names they would not have stopped the London bombings.

It has even been suggested that an ID card could create an ID theft kit.
see -
http://tinyurl.com/a25us
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« Reply #71 on: Tuesday 17 January 06 10:44 GMT (UK) »
I already hold a blood donor card (biometrics!), driving licence (photo & signature), work pass, passport, 6 readers tickets (status as nerd confirmed) and many more.

Why the bally hellfire do I need to PAY for another one.

The ID card isn't going to replace these things therefore I get nothing out of it.  It is therefore a tax.  Do I want to be taxed again?  No I don't - I lose out as a single no kids working person as it is (though as a socialist I don't mind too much).

Besides that I agree with everything Guy said  ;)

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