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Re: Hexham - The Barron Family - Roman Catholic (part 1)
« Reply #63 on: Friday 26 May 17 22:57 BST (UK) »
Hi

Try http://www.findmypast.co.uk/ go to Newspapers & Periodicals - go to filter by county - go to Tyne & Wear and tick box to apply filter - go to filter by newspaper and this will show you all the newspapers mentioned.

Hope this helps

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Anthony Forster Barron 1819-1880 - more info
« Reply #64 on: Monday 29 May 17 10:36 BST (UK) »
Found this info not long ago, thought it may be useful.

On 21st May 1841 it was reported in the Newcastle Courant that the partnership between Thomas Oyston and Anthony Forster Barron, Cabinet Makers, Joiners & Furniture Dealers is dissolved by mutual consent. All debts by the firm of Oyston & Barron will be received and paid by Anthony Forster Barron.

The Court of Conscience, Newcastle upon Tyne was a debtors court where plaintiffs and defendants sued each other.  The records held at Tyne & Wear Archives are fragmentary but they have survived for the years 1842-43, 1843-44 & 1844-47, they give another glimpse into the activities of Anthony Forster Barron.

31 May 1842 AFB  was sued by David Cowan.
28 June 1842 AFB was again sued by David Cowan,
30 August 1842 AFB & Thomas Oyston were both sued by John George Ewart.
29 November 1842 AFB was sued by Thomas Clark.
29 November 1842 AFB was sued by John Brown Oyston.
31 January 1843 AFB sued John Owen Hogg, Robert Hetherington, Elizabeth Embleton, William Hills, Thomas Bruce and Thomas Charlton.
31 January 1843 AFB was sued by William Codling.
31 January 1843 AFB was sued by William Henzell.
31 January 1843 AFB was sued by Thomas Linsey.
28 March 1843 Thomas Oyston was sued by Emmerson Lee.
28 March 1843 AFB was sued by Thomas Oyston.
30 May 1843 AFB was again sued by Thomas Oyston.
29 August 1843 AFB was sued by David Cowan.
29 September 1843 AFB was sued by John Forster.
31 October 1843 AFB sued Abraham Levy, John Harrison, George Byers and John Gee.
28 November 1843 AFB sued George Peary, Thomas Scott, Mary Anderson, Philip Tinshard, Anthony Graham, Isabella Embleton, Thomas Bruce, Robert Errington, Henry Fairlamb and Joseph Pattison.

It is by anyone's standards a huge amount of Court appearances! In the middle of all this Anthony F Barron also found time to marry Ann Pearson on 12th September 1842. The Court appearances stop when AFB was gaoled for 1yr in September 1844 for crime against Hannah McNess. By February 1847 the Newcastle Journal lists him as an insolvent debtor, out of business, and living with his mother, Frances Barron, but then as we know his story did not end there and he was soon back in buisness..

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Re: Hexham - The Barron Family - Roman Catholic (part 1)
« Reply #65 on: Thursday 15 June 17 18:01 BST (UK) »
Does anyone have any idea where the name Barron originated from or where the family came from?

I was talking to my Grandma and she said she remembers her father David Herbert Barron mentioning something about Scotland? just wondered if there was any truth in that or if anyone has any idea.

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Re: Hexham - The Barron Family - Roman Catholic (part 1)
« Reply #66 on: Thursday 15 June 17 22:12 BST (UK) »
   The most common explanation I've come across for the origin of the surname is that of a minor landowner who held a certain amount of jurisdiction over the population of their lands. Many sources list it as an old surname of Angus, Scotland. The earliest our Barron's can be traced is of course to David Barron (c1714-1796) & his wife Mary (c1722-1769) of Stamfordham, Northumberland, David was most likely land steward to the Catholic Riddell Family who owned Cheeseburn Grange. David either was born a Catholic, married a Catholic or took on the religion of the Riddell Family.
   At Northumberland Archives, the volume 'Return of Papists 1767' states that Cheeseburn Grange, Stamfordham was owned at this time by the Catholic Ralph Riddell Esq, the return mentions 9 other families and individuals including 'David Barron and his 7 sons', 'John Barron his wife and 3 sons', and 'Matthew Barron' then states 'the above are all employed in country business, the greater part were born in the parish and educated papists'.
   Whether or not David was one of those who was born in Stamfordham is a question which cannot be answered, my personal view is that the Barron's did not move far and are originally from the surrounding Ovingham, Corbridge, Bywell, Stamfordham area of Northumberland. Up to the mid 18th century there is a sizeable number of Barron birth, marriages and deaths in this vicinity, I believe that our Barron's were probably an offshoot of these families.
   


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Re: Hexham - The Barron Family - Roman Catholic (part 1)
« Reply #67 on: Thursday 15 June 17 22:59 BST (UK) »
   The most common explanation I've come across for the origin of the surname is that of a minor landowner who held a certain amount of jurisdiction over the population of their lands. Many sources list it as an old surname of Angus, Scotland. The earliest our Barron's can be traced is of course to David Barron (c1714-1796) & his wife Mary (c1722-1769) of Stamfordham, Northumberland, David was most likely land steward to the Catholic Riddell Family who owned Cheeseburn Grange. David either was born a Catholic, married a Catholic or took on the religion of the Riddell Family.
   At Northumberland Archives, the volume 'Return of Papists 1767' states that Cheeseburn Grange, Stamfordham was owned at this time by the Catholic Ralph Riddell Esq, the return mentions 9 other families and individuals including 'David Barron and his 7 sons', 'John Barron his wife and 3 sons', and 'Matthew Barron' then states 'the above are all employed in country business, the greater part were born in the parish and educated papists'.
   Whether or not David was one of those who was born in Stamfordham is a question which cannot be answered, my personal view is that the Barron's did not move far and are originally from the surrounding Ovingham, Corbridge, Bywell, Stamfordham area of Northumberland. Up to the mid 18th century there is a sizeable number of Barron birth, marriages and deaths in this vicinity, I believe that our Barron's were probably an offshoot of these families.
 

Thank you for the detailed answer Patrick, really helpful!

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Re: Hexham - The Barron Family - Roman Catholic (part 1)
« Reply #68 on: Thursday 31 August 17 18:26 BST (UK) »
Hi

I have been sent a passage from a book titled ''Victorian Villains''.

In this book there is a man called David Barron aged 19 at the time in 1872 from Newcastle Upon Tyne. He was sentenced to 6 months in jail.  The only David Barron I have on my tree is a David Pearson Barron Birth 1848. Or a generation before him there is another David Barron born 1815. But looking at his prison picture in the book it couldn't be the David born 1815 as it states the David Barron in question was 19 at the time.

David Pearson Barron would've have been a couple of years older at the time having been born in 1848. I can't quite pinpoint who this David Barron is. If anyone has any idea I'd be hugely grateful.

 

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Re: Hexham - The Barron Family - Roman Catholic (part 1)
« Reply #69 on: Thursday 31 August 17 20:34 BST (UK) »
The person who has extensive knowledge about this Barron family and who started this particular chat is Patrick B, hopefully he will reply as soon as he can.

Also if you read through all the postings on this forum u might get an answer.

In the meantime it would be nice to see the picture of David Barron aged 19 in 1872. George Barron 1808-1871 was my partner's paternal great grandfather.

Good luck,
Ray

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Re: Hexham - The Barron Family - Roman Catholic (part 1)
« Reply #70 on: Thursday 31 August 17 21:59 BST (UK) »
This is what is in the book in question.






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Re: Hexham - The Barron Family - Roman Catholic (part 1)
« Reply #71 on: Friday 01 September 17 10:30 BST (UK) »
Very interesting!

I would suggest that this is David Pearson Barron but I could be wrong. I know there is an age difference but the person in the picture looks older than 19 and the fact he is a 'cabinet maker' suggests this David Barron is Anthony Forster Barron's son.

Patrick usually responds very quickly to posts and I know he will find this very interesting if he hasn't already seen it.

I can only think he hasn't seen your posting yet and may be on holiday.

However, thanks for posting the info.  Out of interest, any mention of a person with surname Crozier in your book?

Regards