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Date of death and USA passenger list help needed
« on: Wednesday 03 September 14 10:47 BST (UK) »
Hi.  I am trying to find the date of death for James Viggers born in 1840 - not sure where, but he married Mary Tasker Sept 1858.  In Sept 1877 Mary married Alfred Turner.  I can't find any information as to what happened to James.  Also it appears that Alfred and Mary went to Marshall, West Virginia as they are recorded there in 1900.  I have tried to find them on passenger lists but am struggling as I am not sure even where they would have sailed from.  Not much to go on and a very long shot but can anyone help please.

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Re: Date of death and USA passenger list help needed
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 03 September 14 11:02 BST (UK) »
This looks like the family in1861, giving a POB as Banbury

Hobleys Lane, Neithrop, Banbury, Oxfordshire, England

James   Viggers   Head   Married   20   Sawyer   Banbury, Oxfordshire
Mary   Viggers   Wife   Married           22              Banbury, Oxfordshire
Ann J    Viggers   Daughter   -             1               Banbury, Oxfordshire
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Re: Date of death and USA passenger list help needed
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 03 September 14 11:18 BST (UK) »
James Viggers
Death
4 Quarter
1868
Peterborough, Northamptonshire, England
Age   28
Birth Approx 1840
Volume 3B
Page 127
Line Number 157
Gaskell, Ormskirk, Upholland, Pemberton, Lancashire
Screeton/Screaton, Nottingham
Lomax Suffolk, Lancashire
Ghilks, Mansfield
Jones, Wales
Banham, Norwich
Rothwell, Lancashire
Tinks, Suffolk
Shepherd, Lancashire

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Re: Date of death and USA passenger list help needed
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 03 September 14 11:29 BST (UK) »
Hi, think this is the family in 1891 - possibly including Mary's mother Anne.
Class: RG12; Piece: 1184; Folio: 58; Page: 2;

Foundry Street, Neithorpe, Banbury
 Alfred Turner  60
 Mary Turner  52
 Anne Tasker  80
 Charles Viggers  23
 Frederick Turner  12

The household next door is headed by 58 year old widow Lydia Viggers.

There is also an immigration record of a Mary Turner emigrating to USA on 4 August 1892 from Liverpool to Boston on board the Pavonia.  She is listed as being 54 (born 1839) as described as wife.

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Re: Date of death and USA passenger list help needed
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 03 September 14 12:25 BST (UK) »
Just looking for Mary Turner in 1901 to confirm that she emigrated in 1892 as per post above when I came across this.  A group of nuns in Selly Hill, Northfield, Worcestershire.

Only reason I wondered is that there is a Mary Turner of the right age born Banbury and also a Sarah Tasker born Banbury which made me think.

Below is only a short extract from a very long list!

Class: RG13; Piece: 2807; Folio: 212; Page: 54
 Genevieve Dupins  88
 Hannah Young  78
 Sarah Tasker  68
 Mary J Johnson  62
 Mary Turner  65
 Mary E Painton  68

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Re: Date of death and USA passenger list help needed
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 03 September 14 12:35 BST (UK) »
Have you got the correct Alfred and Mary ?  ???

Alfred and Mary Turner who appear on the 1900 Census for Sand Hill, Marshall, West Virginia.

Alfred Turner  71 Born Eng feb 1829. Married 1869. Immigrated 1840. NA. Farmer.
Mary Turner  59 Born PA June 1840. Immigrated 1840. Married 1869.  Had 1 child and 1 survives.


Couple also appear in 1880 Sand Hill, Marshall, West Virginia.

Alfred Turner  50 Born Eng. Farmer.
Mary A. Turner  37 Born PA.
Fairy C. Turner  9 Born West Virginia 1871.

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Re: Date of death and USA passenger list help needed
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 03 September 14 12:36 BST (UK) »
According to the death of Ferry Colley Turner/Fox 19 May 1948  - parents were Arthur Turner and Mary Annie Fox.

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Re: Date of death and USA passenger list help needed
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 03 September 14 12:38 BST (UK) »
FIND A GRAVE

Mary Anna Fox Turner - Born Jun. 28, 1840 Pittsburgh Allegheny County Pennsylvania.
Death:  Jun. 11, 1929 Sand Hill (Marshall County) Marshall County West Virginia.

http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=TU&GSpartial=1&GSbyrel=all&GSst=52&GScntry=4&GSsr=2481&GRid=77107894&

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Re: Date of death and USA passenger list help needed
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 03 September 14 12:48 BST (UK) »
Hi, as Sandra says it appears that the Alfred Turner & Mary née Tasker formerly Viggers living in Neithorpe in 1881 (details below) are probably not the same couple as living in Marshall, West Virginia in 1880 as they are unlikely to have returned by 1881.

This is the 1881 census record of Mary and Alfred still living in Foundry Street.  Incidentally this time the household next door is headed by a Thomas Viggers.
Class: RG11; Piece: 1529; Folio: 64; Page: 2


 Alfred Turner  42
 Mary Turner  42
 William A. Turner  18
 Eliza Turner  13
 Henrietta Turner  10
 Frederick Turner  2
 Charles Viggers  13
 Mark Viggers  10
 Amelia Mascord  2


Where did your info about the Turners in Marshall come from originally?

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