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1851 - 1861 & 1891 Census Look up - SAMUEL DAVIS
« on: Tuesday 02 September 14 18:37 BST (UK) »
Samuel Davis b 1837 (I believe) and christened in 1841 St Johns, Liverpool (parents Thomas and Elizabeth).

I am a little confused with this ancestor!  Firstly his age, it seems to change here and there.
While born in Liverpool, he eventually lands down in Bristol, I believe married to Sarah Ann.  I thought I found their marriage, but it stated 1875.  So I could be barking up the wrong tree there.
Her maiden name would be Pullen.   

The children they have in the 1881 census:

Albert b 1869, Annie b 1873, William b 1876, Fred b 1878 and James (Jas) b 1880

The children look like they are born all over the place too.

I am trying to find him in the above census records mostly to make sure I have the right info and the right family as their son William Davis b 1876 appears to be my Great Grandfather.  (On his marriage info I found his father is listed as Samuel.)

Any help would be appreciated. Thank you.

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Re: 1851 - 1861 & 1891 Census Look up - SAMUEL DAVIS
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 02 September 14 18:55 BST (UK) »
1871
RG10; Piece: 2548; Folio: 7; Page: 5

with Carter family at Lower Cheltenham Place, Bristol

Sarah PULLIN age 31 - Monthly Nurse  Ditchett, Somerset (Widow)
Albert M PULLIN age 2 - Bristol



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Re: 1851 - 1861 & 1891 Census Look up - SAMUEL DAVIS
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 02 September 14 19:16 BST (UK) »
Oh that looks promising redonyt!!  I did wonder if perhaps she had been married before.
According to the info I have - the daughter Annie is born in Merthyr Tydfil in 1873 - she is however listed as Davis.  Maybe they got married after?

Thanks so much for that!
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Re: 1851 - 1861 & 1891 Census Look up - SAMUEL DAVIS
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 02 September 14 19:59 BST (UK) »

could this be some of them?

1891
Class: RG12; Piece: 1960; Folio: 19; Page: 31

Samuel  DAVIS   aged 45  Liverpool  Quay labourer  (Widower)
Fred DAVIS aged 14  Liverpool  Scholar
James DAVIS  12   Liverpool  Scholar


Registration district:  Bristol
Sub-registration district:  St Paul





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« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 02 September 14 20:09 BST (UK) »

1891

RG12; Piece: 1959; Folio: 124; Page: 6

William Davis  age 15 - born Bristol

Under Detention

Civil Parish:   St Stephens, Gloucestershire

(Training Ship 'Formidable'  for Boys (Industrial School))

one of many boys aboard



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« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 02 September 14 20:13 BST (UK) »
Choice of two marriages, but second perhaps more likely?

Q4 1874   Frome    5c   836   
CARPENTER    Henry James          
DAVIS    Samuel        
Jacobs    Elizabeth        
Pullin    Sarah Lucy        


Q3 1875   Bristol    6a   137
DAVIS    Samuel           
Oatley    Annie Brewer        
PULLEN    Sarah        
Shelton    George William        

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« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 02 September 14 20:13 BST (UK) »
possible death of Sarah

Deaths Dec 1888   

DAVIS  Sarah  49  Bristol  6a 19



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Re: 1851 - 1861 & 1891 Census Look up - SAMUEL DAVIS
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 02 September 14 20:27 BST (UK) »

could Samuel have re-married?

1901
RG13; Piece: 2384; Folio: 74; Page: 12


Samuel Davis aged 60 born Liverpool  Dock labourer

Martha Davis  aged 49 born Bourton, Dorset

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Re: 1851 - 1861 & 1891 Census Look up - SAMUEL DAVIS
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 02 September 14 20:35 BST (UK) »
I think you've got the right people.   ;D

I started out with the 1881 census, indeed Fred and James are there - Fred born Bristol, James born Birmingham (apparently).  The father says he is 39 there - but I am thinking that the original date of 1837 is correct as in 1891 he would have been 54 (45 back to front?).  Oh bummer, I just noticed that the birth record I was looking at was for "Davies"...  :-\  Ok, so perhaps he was born in 1841 after all.  (Back to looking)!

The info on naughty William makes sense then as well.   He later went on to be a 'dock labourer'.  Must have learned a thing or two!  Some of his own children (my grandmother and her siblings) - they had 2 Alberts (one was a twin and died), William, James and my gran Violet's middle name was Sarah.  (There are lots of others too). 

And the marriage one - yes, I'm definitely sure the PULLEN lady is the right one. 

I just saw your latest post regarding Samuel remarrying... wow...could well be.  Ooooh... the plot thickens!



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