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Re: BBC 1 WDYTYA: Series 11, Episode 4, Brendan O'Carroll
« Reply #54 on: Saturday 30 August 14 11:59 BST (UK) »
oooh  didnt read it... but thought Sheridan Smith was a fella ??? oh dear.
Just checked her out and she is about to play Cilla !! uhm  :-X

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Re: BBC 1 WDYTYA: Series 11, Episode 4, Brendan O'Carroll
« Reply #55 on: Saturday 30 August 14 13:17 BST (UK) »
Confessions of a Mrs. Brown viewer  :-X
However, it is a shame so much of it has been found to be online. nospringchicken has added quite a bit of information except one of her links on the Cairo gang says that Hardy died in the 20's while the expert on WDYTYA tells us he went on to be a banker and wrote two books  ???

Hi, According to this link in the Cairo Gang website Jocelyn Lee Herbert died in 1958. http://www.cairogang.com/escaped/hardy/hardy.html Which link did you find which stated he died in 1920? In fact there was also another one legged man in the auxiliaries which also begs a question.

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Re: BBC 1 WDYTYA: Series 11, Episode 4, Brendan O'Carroll
« Reply #56 on: Saturday 30 August 14 14:40 BST (UK) »


Hi, According to this link in the Cairo Gang website Jocelyn Lee Herbert died in 1958. http://www.cairogang.com/escaped/hardy/hardy.html Which link did you find which stated he died in 1920? In fact there was also another one legged man in the auxiliaries which also begs a question.
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sorry I know this is serious answer -  but I for some reason got the giggles when reading it --- forgive me... I am going out now so will not interrupt again  (maybe :) )
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Re: BBC 1 WDYTYA: Series 11, Episode 4, Brendan O'Carroll
« Reply #57 on: Saturday 30 August 14 14:53 BST (UK) »
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but not sure why they need to put details of the whole episode in the papers beforehand:
  I don't read the articles as I like to watch a programme to find out the details, I had just read a comment about it probably being more cheerful next week, but I didn't read anything about which ancestors had been discovered.


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Re: BBC 1 WDYTYA: Series 11, Episode 4, Brendan O'Carroll
« Reply #58 on: Saturday 30 August 14 14:56 BST (UK) »
Xin - Sheridan Smith is ubiquitous on TV at the moment, every time there's a new play or series, she seems to be in it.  ::)

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Re: BBC 1 WDYTYA: Series 11, Episode 4, Brendan O'Carroll
« Reply #59 on: Saturday 30 August 14 15:19 BST (UK) »
Confessions of a Mrs. Brown viewer  :-X
However, it is a shame so much of it has been found to be online. nospringchicken has added quite a bit of information except one of her links on the Cairo gang says that Hardy died in the 20's while the expert on WDYTYA tells us he went on to be a banker and wrote two books  ???

Hi, According to this link in the Cairo Gang website Jocelyn Lee Herbert died in 1958. http://www.cairogang.com/escaped/hardy/hardy.html Which link did you find which stated he died in 1920? In fact there was also another one legged man in the auxiliaries which also begs a question.

Hi springchick

It was this link - here http://www.cairogang.com/murdered-men/angliss.html 
Almost at the end near the photo of the woman holding a pussycat.  Or have I read this incorrectly?  ???

CD

PS - Yes Heywood - agree with your statement.

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Re: BBC 1 WDYTYA: Series 11, Episode 4, Brendan O'Carroll
« Reply #60 on: Saturday 30 August 14 15:23 BST (UK) »


Hi, According to this link in the Cairo Gang website Jocelyn Lee Herbert died in 1958. http://www.cairogang.com/escaped/hardy/hardy.html Which link did you find which stated he died in 1920? In fact there was also another one legged man in the auxiliaries which also begs a question.


sorry I know this is serious answer -  but I for some reason got the giggles when reading it --- forgive me... I am going out now so will not interrupt again  (maybe :) )
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Re: BBC 1 WDYTYA: Series 11, Episode 4, Brendan O'Carroll
« Reply #61 on: Saturday 30 August 14 15:37 BST (UK) »
Confessions of a Mrs. Brown viewer  :-X
However, it is a shame so much of it has been found to be online. nospringchicken has added quite a bit of information except one of her links on the Cairo gang says that Hardy died in the 20's while the expert on WDYTYA tells us he went on to be a banker and wrote two books  ???

Hi, According to this link in the Cairo Gang website Jocelyn Lee Herbert died in 1958. http://www.cairogang.com/escaped/hardy/hardy.html Which link did you find which stated he died in 1920? In fact there was also another one legged man in the auxiliaries which also begs a question.

Hi springchick

It was this link - here http://www.cairogang.com/murdered-men/angliss.html 
Almost at the end near the photo of the woman holding a pussycat.  Or have I read this incorrectly?  ???

CD

PS - Yes Heywood - agree with your statement.

I think in the programme it was claimed Angliss and Lee Hardy were the same man? However this website has pretty conclusive evidence that they were different men. Angliss and Lee Hardy are different men. However I did think that it was possible that at times they swapped identities ie gave each other's names. Also in the world of double, triple agents etc things can get pretty murky and maybe even the auxiliaries were playing off each other? This last sentence, I admit, is speculation but I think it may reflect the atmosphere of the time and I don't think it's wild speculation like claiming, say, that the O'Carroll family and Hardy were related or some other wild statement!!! In the light of the evidence I've found on the web I find the Brendan Carroll programme very twisty and turny. Brendan O'Carroll did often seem to be making a statement and then end with a questioning 'I would hope?'. By the way on a separate note his mother was an Irish MP.

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Re: BBC 1 WDYTYA: Series 11, Episode 4, Brendan O'Carroll
« Reply #62 on: Wednesday 03 September 14 10:30 BST (UK) »
Confessions of a Mrs. Brown viewer  :-X
I liked this episode much better than the other two (to date)! I don't mind an episode that focuses on one person (Remember Carol Voderman and her father and the underground printing press during WW2?)  I do have a great interest in Irish history & Irish family history and perhaps this all helped me to keep focused on Brendan's story.
However, it is a shame so much of it has been found to be online. nospringchicken has added quite a bit of information except one of her links on the Cairo gang says that Hardy died in the 20's while the expert on WDYTYA tells us he went on to be a banker and wrote two books  ???
But I too liked the way Brendan kept going back to his source (the newspaper article) and questioning what it said.  But a  better understand of the whole situation of the O'Carroll family I think would have stood us in better stead.
I know this episode has been controversial due to the political nature of it - but I think sometimes we do need to be reminded of uncomfortable episodes in our history.
I think if l remember correctly, Carol Vordermans episode did not just focus on her Father, the first half was about a Grandfather who was a Butcher in Prestatyn, George Davies.
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