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Re: Two sisters born late 19th century who left South Shields for Wigan. A problem!
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 27 August 14 12:20 BST (UK) »
Thanks all, for the suggestions. Ray, how do I know this is the Nora from South Shields? Fits the time scale nicely! It appears Charles Henry Bland lived on into his 80s. Might have separated. Can anyone get a death date for Eleanor H Blackburn/Bland/Molyneux?

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Re: Two sisters born late 19th century who left South Shields for Wigan. A problem!
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 27 August 14 12:21 BST (UK) »
Eleanor Hawthorn Molyneux b 31 Dec 1889 died Dec qtr 1969 Chorley.

Per FreeBMD: www.freebmd.org.uk
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Two sisters born late 19th century who left South Shields for Wigan. A problem!
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 27 August 14 12:32 BST (UK) »
That was quick, AVM! Thanks!

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Re: Two sisters born late 19th century who left South Shields for Wigan. A problem!
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 27 August 14 14:01 BST (UK) »
Hi

How will you know? Death certifcate may tell you (address, who reported, etc)

"It appears Charles Henry Bland lived on into his 80s".
It appears a Charles Henry Bland may have lived on into his 80s.
Birth dates do not tally (Sept vs Feb)
 
"Might have separated."
May have had another family.

"Gives a birth date of 1883"
Yes. There is no guarantee that either find is correct.
Whoever regd the death(s) may not have had the full facts.
Again, (either) Death certifcate(s) may tell you (address, who reported, etc)


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Births Jun 1885 S. Shields 10a 733 Charles Henry Bland
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Re: Two sisters born late 19th century who left South Shields for Wigan. A problem!
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 27 August 14 14:08 BST (UK) »
Hi

This made me smile . . . . .

Agnes Calver's brother

Birth Dec 1905 Grimsby    7a   565 Lord Charles Calver
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Re: Two sisters born late 19th century who left South Shields for Wigan. A problem!
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 27 August 14 14:14 BST (UK) »
Hi

Possibly, a more appropriate birth (date/quarter) registration?

Birth Dec 1889 Wirral 8a 434 Charles Henry Bland
would cover the CHB death details in 1976

"The wise man knows how little he knows, the foolish man does not". My Grandfather & Father.

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Re: Two sisters born late 19th century who left South Shields for Wigan. A problem!
« Reply #15 on: Wednesday 27 August 14 16:27 BST (UK) »
Hi Ray
Yes, 'Lord Charles' for a coal trimmer's son was very funny!
Thanks for the info on death certificates. I am sure that 1889 is correct for Charles Henry Bland as I have checked the 1911 Census with his birth details. First qtr 1889. There was another similarly named from South Shields born in 1895. Confusing! Still not convinced about Nora's death date and place. But she may have been in a hospital at Shotley Bridge specialising in TB sufferers. On the other hand, she may have married someone else, and vanished! I am going to find out if she had children. Tel