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Re: birth certificate
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 26 August 14 23:26 BST (UK) »
Hi mitsyms,
From what I recall, most if not all these events occurred around Birkenhead.
Was Kathleen raised with those siblings and more importantly with Edwin and Amelia as her parents.
You say that Amelia had 'an affair' with Mr Carradus but married him 5 yrs after Edwin's death, when she was around 70 yrs old. ???

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It would seem that Amelia and Stanley married after his wife's death.
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« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 27 August 14 12:37 BST (UK) »
Not all births made it to the national index, having to transcribed, sent to London, and then transcribed again. Your 1922 birth may be in a local register but not the national one, or for some reason un-registered. In that case a baptism might exist but not a registration.

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Re: birth certificate
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 03 April 16 14:26 BST (UK) »

Further thoughts ...

Have you checked out the following birth registrations:

Blackburn RD (Lancashire) - Dec 1922 - Kathleen MARSDEN (mmn HOBSON)
Wortley RD (West Riding of Yorkshire) - Mar 1921 - Kathleen HOBSON (mmn HOBSON)


If Kathleen's birth was as a result of an extra-marital affair, then it's possible that she was registered with her mother's maiden name (or possibly maternal grandmother's maiden name - MARSDEN?) and away from her home locality.  (I have just this scenario in my husband's family tree!)

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« Reply #12 on: Sunday 03 April 16 14:35 BST (UK) »
Did she die as Kathleen Burke?

If so this is the only one that I've found,making her birth 10 years earlier than you thought?

Kathleen Burke  DOB 30 Dec 1912
Died,    Aug 1986 - Bury Lancashire
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« Reply #13 on: Sunday 03 April 16 16:48 BST (UK) »
Yes she died as kathleen burke but was born in 1922 and died in1988. At the moment both myself and her daughter, jane have given up.  The family closet to them will not discuss it.

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Re: birth certificate
« Reply #14 on: Sunday 03 April 16 17:01 BST (UK) »
I am doing really well and suddenly my aunty Kathleen - tivendale wood or burke does not seem to have a birth certificate. there seems to be a family mystery around her as there seems to have been a divorce or something similar. She said she was born in 1922 in Newton le Willows, Lancs. She died in 1986
In your original post you said that she died in 1986,hence me suggesting that her birth was in fact in 1912  ;D
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« Reply #15 on: Monday 04 April 16 16:35 BST (UK) »
I'm a little puzzled as to why you are sure Kathleen was born in 1922 when you don't have the birth cert. Many people took a few years off their real age for various reasons. Don't rule out either of the two birth registrations mentioned in previous posts here. Frostyknight

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« Reply #16 on: Monday 04 April 16 16:59 BST (UK) »
In 1922 Newton Le Willows came under Warrington Registration District (until 1934)

September quarter 1922 - Kathleen Burke, mmn Cooke

No entries for the surname Wood or Tivendale Wood (with or without the hyphen)
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« Reply #17 on: Monday 04 April 16 17:24 BST (UK) »
Death registration - May 1988 in Blackpool and Fylde - Kathleen Mary Burke aged 66, dob shows as 10 March 1922. 

"Connection" by Ancestry goes to:

Marriage - June quarter 1941 - Preston - Arthur L. Burke and Kathleen Tivendale-Wood

There was no "official" adoption in England and Wales before 1927.
Transcriptions and NBI are merely finding aids.  They are NOT a substitute for original record entries.
Remember - "They'll be found when they want to be found" !!!
If you don't ask the question, you won't get an answer.
He/she who never made a mistake, never made anything.
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Milner - WRY
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