Norval family of Thornton/Markinch

[merk]

Dear Folks:

I have a family from Thornton Markinch I am researching.
My gr.gr.grandfather was Thomas Andrew Norval born 23 May, 1827.  He lived with his grandfather, Joseph Norval in Thornton in 1841.  His brother, Joseph was born circa 1826 in Prestonpans and in 1841 he was also living with the grandfather.

Thomas crossed the ocean in May of 1851, leaving Liverpool and landing in New York City aboard the ship "Aberdeen."  He ended up living in Hammond, New York State where he died sometime between 1870-80.

His parents were Charles Norval and Agnes Anderson, married in 1822 in Kirkcaldy.
Charles' parents were Joseph Norval and Janet Cree of Thornton, Markinch, married in Dysart in 1793. Their children were:

Margaret b. 1795 who married a Peter Laing of Gallatown.  I have no further information on this family and hope to make a connection with someone who has some data.

Charles..my gr.gr.gr.grandfather died before 1832.  Have no record of his death.

John b. 1799 married Marg. Hogg Johnston (I think) and lived on the Isle of Skye at Lynedale house (Snizort) Had at least one son Joseph b. circa 1837 in Leslie.(?)

Janet Norval b. 1802 married Alexander Kilgour  in 1824 and emigrated with the many children circa 1850 to Clarendon Twp. Pontiac Cty. Quebec Canada.

If anyone is researching this family, I'd love to hear from you.

Sue
Ontario Canada

[moscan]

Date of Birth / Christening 17 May 1797
 NORVAL CHARLES
Father JOSEPH NORVAL
mother JANET CREE
Frame Number FR442
Sex  M
Parish  MARKINCH
GROS DATA 447/00 0002
 

4 Nov 1822
 NORVAL CHARLES
AGNES ANDERSON
M
KIRKCALDY
442/00 0006


11 Aug 1799
 NORVAL  JOHN
JOSEPH NORVAL
JANET CREE
FR442
M
MARKINCH
447/00 0002

4 Apr 1802
 NORVAL  JANET
JOSEPH NORVAL
JANET CREE
F
MARKINCH
447/00 0002

19 Dec 1824
NORVAL MARGARET
PETER LAING
 F
DYSART
426/00 0007

Best wishes

Mo

[margthom]

A newly found cousin pointed me to this posting.  However I have to disagree with the parents of your Margaret....

BIRTH: Birth:  03 SEP 1803     Christening:  23 SEP 1803  Abbotshall, Fife, Scotland 
Parents:   Father:  CHARELS NORVAL  Family  Mother:  MAGDALENE HOWDON
Source  Information:  Batch No.:  Dates:  Source Call No.:  Type:
Printout Call No.:  Type:   C113996  1781 - 1826  1040142   Film  6900188
Film 

Perhaps you have already found this information.

Peter Laing and Margaret are my 3rd Great Grandparents.

Margaret

[bobkilgour]

I am a Kilgour living in England but moved from Fife, Scotland in 1965. Have been recently trying to do the male line backwards from my dad as he passed away 18 months ago and nostalga sets in for a while.
My Great Great Grandfather Henry Kilgour appears to have been born in 1802 from parents George Kilgour and Cecilia Gibson.
Henry was one of 4 brothers and 1 sister. One of those brothers was Alexander Kilgour born 1797 who appears to have married Janet Norval. They also appear to have had two children George in 1831 and Margaret in 1828, both children died aged 1 year.
I used a couple of credits up with Scotlands people and found a death certificate for a Charles Norval who died in Ayr in 1862, aged 67 which puts him at being born 1797, which I believe is the age of the Charles Norval of your family line. He may be your relative, or I may be wrong but the ages correspond and he is the only Charles Norval registered as dying in Scotland in that period. I have attached a copy of the death certificate if it is of any help.

 

[bobkilgour]

PS.  On the Markinch burials site, George Kilgour when he died was buried alongside his grandson who died age 1, this is Alexander and Janets child. There is also a Joseph Norvall buried at Markinch in 1850 aged 82. May be one of yours. Have a look at the Markinch burials website.

[diddymiller]

Hi, there are 19 Norvals listed on the fife death index. these are prob yours:

Janet Norval (nee Cree) Dysart
bur 27/9/1830 age 68
w. of Joseph

Charles Norval. Kirkcaldy
bur. 26/1/1826.
s. of Charles Norval. gardener at Raith

Charles Norval, master gardener.  kirkcaldy
d.2/2/1835 bur 5/2/1835 age 68
for over 40 years in the employment of the Raith family
(entry from newspaper)

if you are interested in the full list of 19 please send your email by PM

Diddy 

[diddymiller]

Joseph Norvall,  Markinch,Thornton  road surveyor
bur.29/8/1850 age 82

Diddy

[margthom]

A couple of items... I have discovered since I posted my response that I indeed was wrong!     and that the parents of Margaret Norval were indeed Joseph Norval and Janet Cree.

Diddy: Re the 19 Norvals listed on the Fife death index, I would be interested but not quite sure what "send your email by PM" means...

And Sue in Canada, I can fill in the blanks on Margaret marrying Peter Laing if you have not yet found the answer since your post of 2004.

Margaret
also in Ontario Canada