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Parish records fro Shoreditch area
« on: Thursday 21 August 14 16:30 BST (UK) »
Does anyone have access to the Parish records for the Shoreditch/Bethnal Green area, who doesn't mind helping me trace some elusive ancestors? 

I'm searching for the marriage record for Richard Doubtfire and Sarah Earl.  I believe their first born child was my great great great grandfather, Richard Doubtfire and he was born at 4 Teale Street, Bethnal Green on 20th July 1849.

From the census returns I believe Richard senior was born around 1827 - 1831 in St.Lukes and died in 1881 in Shoreditch.  Sarah Earl was born between 1829 - 1835 in Shoreditch and probably died in 1915 in Shoreditch.

Most of Richard and Sarah's children were baptised at St Leonards Church, Shoreditch ... so Richard and Sarah may have married at this church also?

In 1851 their address was given as 6 Little Norfolk Place, Bethnal Green.

If anyone has access to records around this area that could do a little bit of digging for me on Richard and Sarah I'd be very grateful.  They are proving to be very difficult to trace back any further.

I also have an un-named child of Richard and Sarah on the 1951 census that I'd like to identify.  The child was a boy and 1 month old when the census was taken, he does not appear on the 1861 census as is therefore presumed to have died young.  I can't find a baptism record for this boy, or one for my ancestor Richard who was born 1849.

Please note, that there a numerous transcription errors in the spelling of 'Doubtfire', I have come across the following spellings so far 'Dentfire', 'Dowtfire', 'Doughfire', 'Dovbfire', 'Doudfire'

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Re: Parish records fro Shoreditch area
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 21 August 14 16:46 BST (UK) »
Where does Sarah's maiden name come from.

Only asking really as with the family in 1851 there is a Mary Tyler - In 1866 (Bethnal Green) there is a marriage between a Richard Doubtfire & Sarah Tyler both full age. I did wonder if it was a late marriage  :-\
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Re: Parish records fro Shoreditch area
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 21 August 14 16:54 BST (UK) »
The first instance of a marriage entry on FreeBMD for Richard Doubtfire is September quarter 1866

St James the Great, Bethnal Green - 3 September 1866
Richard Doubtfire (x), full age, bachelor, Labourer of Bethnal Green.  Father:  Richard Doubtfire, deceased.
Sarah Tyler (x), full age, spinster of Bethnal Green.  Father:  James Tyler, deceased

Added:  There are no entries for any of your alternative spellings of Doubtfire on FreeBMD 1837-1915.
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Re: Parish records fro Shoreditch area
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 21 August 14 18:23 BST (UK) »
Sarah Earl is on Richard Doubtfire (juniors) birth certificate.



Sarah Tyler on the 1866 marriage record is not the same woman, and is part of a different Doubtfire family living at a different address in the same area.

Moderaor comment: Full certificate removed, small portions only are allowed for deciphering purposes


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Re: Parish records fro Shoreditch area
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 21 August 14 19:06 BST (UK) »
Excuse my ignorance, but why can't we post full certificates?  The people mentioned on it are all long since gone. 

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Re: Parish records fro Shoreditch area
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 21 August 14 20:31 BST (UK) »

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Re: Parish records fro Shoreditch area
« Reply #6 on: Friday 22 August 14 06:19 BST (UK) »
Sarah Tyler on the 1866 marriage record is not the same woman, and is part of a different Doubtfire family living at a different address in the same area.


So we don't confuse the two families could you please post census references for your family in 1871 / 1881

I am only seeing one Richard/Sarah Do*fire family in the area  :-\
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Re: Parish records fro Shoreditch area
« Reply #7 on: Friday 22 August 14 06:39 BST (UK) »
Is this your family in 1861?
Class: RG 9; Piece: 244; Folio: 39; Page: 29
7 Barton Court, Shoreditch, Middlesex

Doubtfire, Richard  Head  M  30  Labourer Dust Yard  b St Lukes, Middlesex
Doubtfire, Darah  Wife  F  28  b Shoreditch
Doubtfire, Richard  Son  M  11  Labourer, Dust Yard  b Hastbury, Middlesex
Doubtfire, Mary A  Daughter  F  3  b Bethnal Green


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Re: Parish records fro Shoreditch area
« Reply #8 on: Friday 22 August 14 07:57 BST (UK) »
1851 - HO107/1534 folio 231 page 36
6 Little Norfolk Place, St Leonards, Shoreditch
Richard Doutfire/Dentfire - 27 - Labourer born St Luke
Sarah - 21 - born Shoreditch
Richard - 1 - born Bethnal Green
Infant son - 1 month - born Shoreditch
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