Thomas Burrell, Private Marine, Kent

[Kevin Burrell]

Well, as I had nothing better to do today (the wife said the grass needs cutting, but, as I said, I had nothing better to do today!) - so I scrolled through 1841 census records for Cartwright Street - and in fact the whole Parish of St Botolph hoping to find something (sounds a lot - but there were only 14 scans, so 28 pages) - all to no avail:( Only one Barell family (Brigit, not Elizabeth) and a Frances Burrell (a mariner). There were a few Elizabeth's on their own who were in the right age range but that does not really help. Will keep looking until I get beaten for not doing the grass:)

[Soubeyran]

Thanks Kevin.. any of the Elizabeths called Pardew?

I've started trying to get my head round 'St Nicholas': the problem is there's a civic parish (from 1792), an Anglican one (church of Ireland), and the St Nicholas Collegiate church in Galway city.. which, incidentally, is in the diocese of Armargh, surprisingly!

Researching the Burrell/Sargent's in the east end has taught me you not only have to take into account which parish/location someone was 'from' *when they were born*, but also at the time they were asked & who asked them: in terms of the individual asking, the organisation they were asking for, & which year they were asking!

I'm guesstimating that Thomas wasn't catholic (unless you know otherwise),  but that doesn't necessarily mean he/others didn't use the catholic church's definition of 'birthplace'.

Lots of work ahead on this, I think: ATM I'm both putting the facts/timeline for each instance of 'Thomas' into a spreadsheet to see what matches up/what differs, & investigating that app I mentioned for sharing projects: it would suit me as it supports Android & Windows 8: what phone/PC do you have?

It would be handy having a central 'wall' we could both post data/pics to.. :-)

[Soubeyran]

Quick update: I think I may have mistranscribed Thomas' birthplace from the Woolwich Hospital record. Mine was 'influenced' by the original transcription 'Denmure' (no such place) as 'Dunmore'.

I was just uploading the photo to the app (Trello, there's a link to the 'wall' in case you don't have Android/Windows 8 Trello board Thomas Burrell - https://trello.com/b/fdRaBBGn/thomas-burrell.), and I realise it could be 'Drumcree', which would match up with Daisy's 'institution' 1841 census record of 'Armagh' as birthplace: Drumcree is in County Armagh.

If you follow the Trello link you can see the Woolwich Hospital record: what do you think?

[Kevin Burrell]

When I first looked at it I thought it said Domicile of Ireland!!  But the r of Ireland is joined from the bottom rather than the top, and comparing the m of Durham in the record below it could easily be Drumcree following that pattern - and the more I look at it, the more I think it is Drumcree 

[Kevin Burrell]

Ok, and Trello looks like a useful site for doc sharing.

[Kevin Burrell]

meant Oh, not OK!

[Daisypetal]

Hi,

Have you seen this baptism?


St Botolph Aldgate
03 Sept 1837
Born:  29 Sept 1828
Ann
Daur of :  Thomas & Elizabeth BURRELL
Cartwright St.
Labourer


This Ann would fit the one showing in 1841 and 1851, and the address fits the Woolwich Hospital entry papers


Daisy

[Kevin Burrell]

I was going to say yes but very similar to the one I did find
NAME: Ann Burrell
GENDER: Female
BIRTH DATE: 29 Sep 1828
BAPTISM DATE: 3 Sep 1837
BAPTISM PLACE:
St Botolph Without Aldgate,London,London,England
FATHER: Thomas Burrell
MOTHER: Elizabeth
FHL FILM NUMBER: 380134, 380135

[Daisypetal]

 Oops, sorry, mixing up my numbers there

I have modified my posting to show the dates shown on the image.