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« Reply #207 on: Wednesday 03 September 14 10:26 BST (UK) »
$180 .... you are being ripped off.   

$20 for each document from the Official transcribers ....

The NSW BDM marriage register for the years 1856 to 1895 can have MANY MANY blanks.  But with the official transcription copy, you get a clear picture of what those blanks are, AND you get the details of which church the couple married in, so you can in turn contact the Church, perhaps using the sample I wrote up for Bron earlier.

ADD, this way you get to the original record, which usually has ALL the info that was missed from the NSW BDM summary copy for the years 1856-1895.   

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« Reply #208 on: Wednesday 03 September 14 10:28 BST (UK) »
$180 .... you are being ripped off.   

$20 for each document from the Official transcribers ....

The NSW BDM marriage register for the years 1856 to 1895 can have MANY MANY blanks.  But with the official transcription copy, you get a clear picture of what those blanks are, AND you get the details of which church the couple married in, so you can in turn contact the Church, perhaps using the sample I wrote up for Bron earlier.

ADD, this way you get to the original record, which usually has ALL the info that was missed from the NSW BDM summary copy for the years 1856-1895.   

Cheers,  JM
sorry I couldn't figure out what to do then, bron63 rang them earlier and she was told $180 for both with background research as well. Bron63 can elaborate further on that.
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« Reply #209 on: Wednesday 03 September 14 10:36 BST (UK) »
"Mudgee" on the NSW BDM website is the then district of Mudgee, not just the township Mudgee.   

Each NSW government department back in the 19th century had its own unique way setting its own boundaries.   So when you see those "District" names you need to recognise that it does not just mean the town or the village or the suburb by that name. 

An example, There's a suburb of Sydney by the name of St Leonards.  Back in the 1870s "St Leonards" could refer to just about anywhere from Parramatta to Manly to Gosford, depending on which NSW government department was writing about ST LEONARDS. 

"Mudgee" on NSW BDM 19th Century can be to within the outskirts of Gulgong, and out almost to Wollar,  to Windamere, to Worlds End, and loads of other localities in that general area.

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« Reply #210 on: Wednesday 03 September 14 10:47 BST (UK) »
Note 1st suspicion that there is a different referance number for both and an initial in one under father, apart from that identical.
Note my second suspicion, if you look at Frances's death info and presume that the info is all correct is says Agnes 3 which would have made Agnes born 1861.

 :) Two different civil registration reference numbers means two different births being registered.

 :) 1864 like all other years in our calendar, occupies twelve months.   Agnes being aged 3, when her Mum died  22 August 1864, could be turning FOUR during 1864, but after 22 August 1864, or already turned three between 1 Jan 1864 and 22 August 1864, OR the informant may have been making a BEST GUESS of Agnes age, or the transcriber may have MIS-READ the handwriting and it may be "5" or "8".     Mary's age may be 18 months, or perhaps there's a mis-read there .... perhaps 10 months, or 10 years, or 19 months, or 13 months or 15 months. 

I am surprised you are asking for background research and prepared to pay for that research.  I am sure that the researcher's techiques will be of a similar standard to many RChatters who give their time here freely.    I feel sure that one of the first things any researcher does in these times, is to GOOGLE the name of the person they are researching.   If that occurs, then they will find this thread easily, and see where you are already up to.   

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« Reply #211 on: Wednesday 03 September 14 10:54 BST (UK) »
Note 1st suspicion that there is a different referance number for both and an initial in one under father, apart from that identical.
Note my second suspicion, if you look at Frances's death info and presume that the info is all correct is says Agnes 3 which would have made Agnes born 1861.

 :) Two different civil registration reference numbers means two different births being registered.

 :) 1864 like all other years in our calendar, occupies twelve months.   Agnes being aged 3, when her Mum died  22 August 1864, could be turning FOUR during 1864, but after 22 August 1864, or already turned three between 1 Jan 1864 and 22 August 1864, OR the informant may have been making a BEST GUESS of Agnes age, or the transcriber may have MIS-READ the handwriting and it may be "5" or "8".     Mary's age may be 18 months, or perhaps there's a mis-read there .... perhaps 10 months, or 10 years, or 19 months, or 13 months or 15 months. 

I am surprised you are asking for background research and prepared to pay for that research.  I am sure that the researcher's techiques will be of a similar standard to many RChatters who give their time here freely.    I feel sure that one of the first things any researcher does in these times, is to GOOGLE the name of the person they are researching.   If that occurs, then they will find this thread easily, and see where you are already up to.   

Cheers,  JM
hopefully bron63 can help explain more here, by background research I was under the impression it would be for any other records they hold at the church or other archives they have access to. Bron63 can hopefully provide with better information as she was the one to contact them.
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« Reply #212 on: Wednesday 03 September 14 10:58 BST (UK) »
I am very appreciative of the standard of the researchers here I must add, I didn't realise until yesterday exactly how much help Roots chat provides and the expertise displayed.  :)

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« Reply #213 on: Wednesday 03 September 14 11:05 BST (UK) »
I am very appreciative of the standard of the researchers here I must add, I didn't realise until yesterday exactly how much help Roots chat provides and the expertise displayed.  :)

 :)  :)  :)  Some trivia ....

Worlds End is around 20 Kilometres to the West of Mudgee Township, not sure if that's measured from the Post Office or from the Hospital.  :)  But I am fairly sure it is 20 kms.   

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http://www.mudgeehistory.com.au/Chinese/Chinese_p6.html

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« Reply #214 on: Wednesday 03 September 14 11:22 BST (UK) »
I am very appreciative of the standard of the researchers here I must add, I didn't realise until yesterday exactly how much help Roots chat provides and the expertise displayed.  :)

 :)  :)  :)  Some trivia ....

Worlds End is around 20 Kilometres to the West of Mudgee Township, not sure if that's measured from the Post Office or from the Hospital.  :)  But I am fairly sure it is 20 kms.   

Add
http://www.mudgeehistory.com.au/Chinese/Chinese_p6.html

Cheers,  JM
25 km roughly from mudgee post office to meroo creek worlds end  :) :) :)

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« Reply #215 on: Wednesday 03 September 14 11:30 BST (UK) »
So from your post I gather you have decided to not acquire Mary Ann's marriage  certificate.

I have to say you have made a serious mistake.

Despite the advice of an expert you are overlooking what could be a vital source of family information

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