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[majm]

Werty, 

Do you already know that Frances FOSTER is possibly Agnes mum?  Or are you going through various online indexes looking for Frances (any surname) on the off chance?  (Add, perhaps to try to find what Mudgee museum meant re two previous marriages for Frances FIRTH)

I am happy to use my offline resources to help, but I would actually prefer to know if I am looking up something on spec or because I am actually helping to validate an existing record (and not just an index entry).   


ADD.  You need to remember that Divorce does NOT exist in NSW until 1873, so it becomes important to consider that a second marriage is likely to be an informal one,  co-habiting was the 1810s word used by the then Governor of NSW.  Other expressions were de facto marriage, and in the 20th century 'common law marriage' became another euphemism.   


Cheers,  JM

[Wertyperty]

Majm, yes that's right sorry. This is based on the first name only and mudgee. I followed each name backwards from the list assuming she did marry. I put Frances under brides name and mudgee for location. For each result I got there I removed mudgee, left Frances , put The bride last name under grooms name assuming the museum was right about other partners and hit search again. I was very surprised with the result so I posted it for assistance. Thankyou. I'll try to remember to add my thoughts on what I find.

[Wertyperty]

Majm, yes that's right sorry. This is based on the first name only and mudgee. I followed each name backwards from the list assuming she did marry. I put Frances under brides name and mudgee for location. For each result I got there I removed mudgee, left Frances , put The bride last name under grooms name assuming the museum was right about other partners and hit search again. I was very surprised with the result so I posted it for assistance. Thankyou. I'll try to remember to add my thoughts on what I find.

i have drawn these referances from the old BDM search engine.

[sparrett]

Does anyone have a picture or any information at all about Aunt Mary Ann?

Sue

[Wertyperty]

The only creditable information I have on Aunt Mary Ann that I can think of is on her mothers death certificate. It says Mary Ann 18 months, Frances Death date 22/8/1864

[sparrett]

So you know nothing of her( Mary Ann) addresses, children, husband's occupation etc.??

Do you hold the marriage certificate?

If not, is it on order  from a transcription agent?

I am aware these questions have been asked before, but just trying to get an understanding here

Sue

[majm]

May I add to Sue's questions

Is that info re Mary Ann from an official transcription or from the actual image of the death registration from 1864?

Cheers,  JM

[Wertyperty]

It is from a transcription. I know the cert info has been posted before but this might be helpful. I have coppied down all the datails from the 3 transcriptions we hold. We don't have any original ones.  Apart from a photo copy of Walter Sherry's death. This will save anyone from having to go back through the threads to find these.
 
Agnes Marriage
 
Groom:  William James Baker
Occupation:  Bricklayer
Residence:  Sydney NSW
 
Bride:  Agnes Firth
Date:  24 May 1882
Residence:  Mudgee
 
Church:  St Johns Church Mudgee NSW
Religion:  Church of England
Witnesses:  Walter Sherry, Elizabeth Amy Nelthorpe.
Minister:  H T A Benson
Registration No:  5451/1882
 
Death
Registration No:  12948/1927
Date of Death:  30 June 1927
Place of Death:  Duntroon Hospital, Johnston st Annandale NSW
Name:  Agnes Baker
Sex:  Female
Age:  65
Cause of Death:  Failure of the hearts action whilst under an anaesthetic
for sergical operartion for multiple abscesses of the lung.
Duration:  Inqueast Sydney 11 Jul 1927
Medical Attendent:  F.W.Fletcher, City Coroner
Father:  -Firth ?
Fathers Occupation:  Boundary rider
Informant;  A.E.Baker, son, Hammond Ave, Ashfield; Registered 1 Jul 1927
Buried:  2 Jul 1927
Where:  Church of England Cemetary Rookwood
Undertaker:  Ernest Andrews
Minister:  P Bazeley
Religion:  Church of England
Witnesses:  A.E.Baker, Arthur H, Shying
Where Born:  Mudgee NSW
Place Married:  Mudgee NSW
Age of Marriage:  19
Spouse:  William James Baker
Children of Marriage:  Living. Agnes E 45, Albert E 41, William G 39, Sydney J 36, Lillian M 34, Oliver J 36.
Deceased. 2 males, 3 females.
 
Mothers Death
Registration Number:  4656/1864
Name:  Frances Firth
Date of Death:  22/8/1864
Place:  Mudgee NSW
Sex:  Female
Age:  34
Place of Birth:  Irland
Children of Marriage:  Agnes 3, Mary 18 months
Informant:  S More, Undertaker, Mudgee
Cause of Death:  Suffocating Catarrh
Length of illness:  2 months
Medical Attendant:  W King
Date last seen:  22/8/1864
Date of burial:  24/8/1864
Place of burial:  Mudgee
Minister and Religion:  Rev James Gunther, Church of England
Undertaker:  S More
Witnesses:  Thomas Wesley, William Caplin
Registered:  23/8/1864 Mudgee

Thankyou.
 

[Wertyperty]

Note for my last post, I've noticed there is a lot of info that can be figured out that is missing from these by cross referencing each one, Frances's rough birth year for example and girls rough birth years.
Thankyou.