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Re: Parkers in Shoreham?
« Reply #27 on: Sunday 27 June 21 12:29 BST (UK) »
Yep, Albert's marriage cert states 1920 with father Thomas dead. Albert died in Winnick hosp 1949, buried in Allerton. His grave says age 65 meaning b1884 but in 1939 Albert states he was born on 20/10/1882. We've accepted that isn't unusual but is doesn't help us.
In this tree, there is a Thomas Parker b1846
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/family-tree/tree/164442734/family/familyview?cfpid=102135135583
If you follow it round via Hollands to the Green family I have a DNA connection to Keith Green.
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/discoveryui-matches/compare/AD9FAE45-6911-4012-A6E8-D81AD7AB6C82/with/B41B611F-86B1-4EE5-8D91-AEC17B68BBDF
Not sure if the links work. It suggests 2nd-3rd cousin but he is actually very distant.
That provides hope but there is no evidence that Thomas ever fathered Albert.
Does that all make sense?

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Re: Parkers in Shoreham?
« Reply #28 on: Sunday 27 June 21 13:11 BST (UK) »
UK and Ireland, Masters and Mates Certificates, 1850-1927 on ancestry
Has a Thomas Parker born 11 Sep 1846, Shoreham, Sussex.
Various documents from 1867 and 1870, with addresses in Shoreham, and North and South Shields.

Not sure that helps in any way!

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Re: Parkers in Shoreham?
« Reply #29 on: Sunday 27 June 21 13:17 BST (UK) »
Anything helps jon :)
I've noticed the Masters cert - that indicates he was in the Navy? Alberts marriage cert suggests he was in the 20th Hussars. It's possible that on the 1891 (by 1891 Albert could have been anywhere) census Thomas was away so never living with Albert, but theres no trace Albert was ever born to Thomas or Albert was living with his mum.
Thanks again, any links or help will be thoroughly explored.

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Re: Parkers in Shoreham?
« Reply #30 on: Sunday 27 June 21 13:56 BST (UK) »
Hi
It's for the merchant navy, he was a mate then, don't know what happened after that.

Trying a different tack, an Albert Parker, illegitimate son of Emma, was born 4 October 1882 in the City of London workhouse, Homerton. Close!
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CS1B-ZSR7-P

It does seem at the moment as if the census release next year will be your best hope, with Albert being in there and giving his place of birth.
He's well hidden at the moment!
Jon


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Re: Parkers in Shoreham?
« Reply #31 on: Sunday 27 June 21 15:22 BST (UK) »
I've bought that Albert's bc just in case a father was named but it was blank. I think that Emma was 25, b1858, so I've purchased 2 death certs of Emma Parkers who died in Brighton in the 1920's hoping for a clue or if Albert registered the death but they were not helpful.
The reason why I chose the 1920's is because my cousin was told my uncle was taken by Albert to see his dying mum in Shoreham when he was a small boy but we don't know any names or any other detail.

That concept has also made me look at some Mary Ann Parkers who died in the 1920's. 

Yep, the 1921 census will give me a birth place - fingers crossed, and a bit more certainty about the birth date.

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Re: Parkers in Shoreham?
« Reply #32 on: Sunday 27 June 21 17:01 BST (UK) »
UK and Ireland, Masters and Mates Certificates, 1850-1927 on ancestry
Has a Thomas Parker born 11 Sep 1846, Shoreham, Sussex.
Various documents from 1867 and 1870, with addresses in Shoreham, and North and South Shields.

Not sure that helps in any way!
Jon, what are the various addresses, can you link me to them please. And would you be confident the TP in N&S Shields is the same one as Shoreham.
Ta mate.

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Re: Parkers in Shoreham?
« Reply #33 on: Sunday 27 June 21 17:25 BST (UK) »
Hi
He is certificate number 83722
Twelve images, going back in time from 1870?
Seem to start here
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/imageviewer/collections/2271/images/31936_1831101456_0216-00409

Frederick Street, South Shields
High Street, Shoreham
47 King Street, North Shields

All his vessels were out of Shoreham?
Going backwards,
Argosy
Blair Athol
Vindex
Pilot

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Re: Parkers in Shoreham?
« Reply #34 on: Sunday 27 June 21 17:44 BST (UK) »
Also, UK, Apprentices Indentured in Merchant Navy, 1824-1910
February 1860
Thos Parker, age 15
Date of Indenture 6 Feb
Term for which Bound 5 (yrs) to 6.2.65
To whom Bound A Sinclair, Shoreham
Name of Vessel Pilot
Enrolled at Shoreham

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Re: Parkers in Shoreham?
« Reply #35 on: Sunday 27 June 21 18:34 BST (UK) »
That's superb, thank you so much Jon.