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Parkers in Shoreham?
« on: Saturday 16 August 14 20:59 BST (UK) »
I have a mystery gt grandfather called Thomas Parker who appears on my grandfathers (Albert) wedding certificate in 1920 as deceased and a former Lieutenant of the 20th Hussars army regiment and who we know was from Shoreham on Sea.
Thomas is not traceable through army records.
We suspect one of them changed their name as they are also not traceable as a family in the any census. I'm not aware of any family members except we think a family member died, perhaps Albert's mum, between approx 1926 & 1931.
We've hit a brick wall tracing our family beyond them so any help would be appreciated.
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Re: Parkers in Shoreham?
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 16 August 14 22:39 BST (UK) »
Hi and welcome to Rootschat

When and where was Albert born?  Do you have a copy of his birth cert showing his mothers name and maiden name as there are an awful lot of Albert Parker's

Have you checked the 1911 census for him?  http://www.1911census.co.uk/search/tnaform.aspx

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and who we know was from Shoreham on Sea.

What document do you have that confirms this was Thomas's birthplace?
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Re: Parkers in Shoreham?
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 16 August 14 22:55 BST (UK) »
Hi, no I haven't got a birth certificate as there is little information to request it. We only know he was born in 1883.
We're quite certain that the family roots are in Shoreham by Sea, so we assume Albert was born there. He married in London and lived in Liverpool after WW1 with his wife who was from there.

My deceased uncle was taken to Shoreham as a small boy when someone was dieing in the dates I posted above.

Thomas could have been born anywhere to be honest. At this stage we know little about him.

Thank you for taking an interest.

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Re: Parkers in Shoreham?
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 16 August 14 23:16 BST (UK) »
If Albert was born in 1883 - he was 37 when he married in 1920 - is that correct?

Is he shown as a bachelor or a widower on the 1920 marriage cert?

What was his own occupation on the 1920 marriage cert

This is the only sussex birth on freebmd in the age range and Steyning was the registration district for Shoreham  http://www.ukbmd.org.uk/genuki/reg/districts/steyning.html

Births June qtr 1883 
Albert Edward Parker     Steyning    2b   314
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Carlin (Ireland & Liverpool) Doughty & Wright (Liverpool) Dick & Park (Scotland & Liverpool)


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Re: Parkers in Shoreham?
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 16 August 14 23:24 BST (UK) »
Welcome from me too :)

The 1920 marriage certificate sounds as though it is the earliest document you have of Albert so, as Carole's questions indicate, the detailed information on there is key to helping us help you.

So some more questions from me:

Where in London did the marriage take place

Was Albert shown as having any other given names

What was Albert's address at the time of marriage

Who were the witnesses?

Also - do you know when and where he died, and what age/birthdate was recorded for him then?
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Parkers in Shoreham?
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 16 August 14 23:29 BST (UK) »
Hi

There are 2 deaths in Liverpool - both with 1884 birthyears and only shown as Albert.  One in 1949 and the other 1963 so unfortunately both before full DoB's were shown

There is no 1891 or 1901 entry that fits so I think the only possibility is the birth cert with a condition re: fathers name
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Re: Parkers in Shoreham?
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 17 August 14 00:12 BST (UK) »
Thank you avm228 :)

Albert died in 1949 in Liverpool,if I have uploading privileges I'll show his wedding cert which is the most detailed yet frustrating doc we have of him.

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Re: Parkers in Shoreham?
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 17 August 14 00:14 BST (UK) »
You are not allowed to display a full certificate - only those parts that need clarification

I will send you a pm with my email address and you can perhaps send it to me instead
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Re: Parkers in Shoreham?
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 17 August 14 00:26 BST (UK) »
OK, thank you.