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Stumped in 1841
« on: Monday 11 August 14 20:46 BST (UK) »
Hello,

I am looking for a William Wadkin b c1825 in Rempstone, Notts. He is on the 1861 RG9 2277 12 p17 and the 1851 HO107 2087 222 p3 (Ancestry has him transcribed as Wadkins) but I am interested in any earlier reference and am completely unable to find him in the 1841. Can anyone else see him?

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Brie

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Re: Stumped in 1841
« Reply #1 on: Monday 11 August 14 21:25 BST (UK) »
https://familysearch.org has a baptism for William Wadkin on 17 June 1825 at Rempstone, parents John Wadkin and Mary.

There is a Mary Wadkin age 45 in the 1841 census at Rempstone, with children Ann, John, Joseph, Fanny, Richard and Esther. This may be William's family but if it is, William is not with them. His occupation was joiner, so he may have been apprenticed to a joiner in 1841.

William Wadkin and Selina Wootten were married in the Oct-Nov-Dec quarter of 1860 at Loughborough.
AYRSHIRE - Strachan, McCrae, Haddow, Haggerty, Neilson, Alexander
ABERDEENSHIRE (Cruden and Longside) - Fraser, Hay, Logan, Hutcheon or Hutchison, Sangster
YORKSHIRE (Worsbrough) - Green, Oxley, Firth, Cox, Rock
YORKSHIRE (Royston and Carlton) - Senior, Simpson, Roydhouse, Hattersley

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Re: Stumped in 1841
« Reply #2 on: Monday 11 August 14 22:59 BST (UK) »
Still looking but there is a burial for a John Wadkin, Rempstone All Saints 3 Nov 1833 age 44

Esther born Mar 1834

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/JM81-KB5
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Ward, Ossett, Newark (Nottingham), Leicester, Scarborough
Warren, Northampton, Leicester
Moore, Leicestershire
Hunt, Leicestershire
Kirkman, Leicestershire
Hurst, Leicester, Stowmarket
Kendrick, Leicestershire
Eld, Leicestershire
Essex Edey/Eady Elsden/Elsdon

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Re: Stumped in 1841
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 12 August 14 09:18 BST (UK) »
Thankyou all,

The Mary Wadkin that JM found is the widow of John that Willsy found. They are my direct line and I am stuck with getting back further with John as I'm not even sure where he was born as he died before censuses.

William is a contemporary Wadkin in the same village. I thought he might be a brother of John and so am working on him to try and make the breakthrough to the next generation. Esther is very interesting as it is a family name so she could well be a sister of John and William.

Thanks again
Brie


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Re: Stumped in 1841
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 12 August 14 09:34 BST (UK) »
If he is an apprentice and staying in someone else's household in 1841, he may have been recorded as Watkin or Watkins. Have you checked for those spellings in the area?

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« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 12 August 14 10:11 BST (UK) »
FamilySearch has a marriage of John Watkin and Mary Smith at Rempstone in 1815. The same site has births/baptisms for the following, parents John Wadkin and Mary, all at Rempstone:
Elizabeth Wadkin bap. 1817
Ann Wadkin bap. 1817
John Wadkin bap. 1825
Jane Wadkin bap. 1825
William Wadkin bap. 1825
Mary Wadkin bap. 1825
Joseph Wadkin b. 1827 bap. 1836
Fanny Wadkin b. 1828 bap. 1836
Richard Wadkin b. 1832 bap. 1836
Esther Wadkin b. 1834 bap. 1836

So it looks as if the family went in for group baptisms in 1817, 1825 and 1836 as the baptisms in those years are for the same date.

This means both John and William Wadkin could have been born between 1817 and 1825. But given the age William gives in the census from 1851 onwards, his birth date seems to be 1824 to 1825.
AYRSHIRE - Strachan, McCrae, Haddow, Haggerty, Neilson, Alexander
ABERDEENSHIRE (Cruden and Longside) - Fraser, Hay, Logan, Hutcheon or Hutchison, Sangster
YORKSHIRE (Worsbrough) - Green, Oxley, Firth, Cox, Rock
YORKSHIRE (Royston and Carlton) - Senior, Simpson, Roydhouse, Hattersley

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Re: Stumped in 1841
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 12 August 14 12:08 BST (UK) »
Am confused

You are looking for him on the 1841 census (1st post)

but

on a later post you state he died before the census

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Re: Stumped in 1841
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 19 August 14 23:13 BST (UK) »
Hi Brie have you tried the Free Reg site I have just found some relatives from 1650 the site covers all counties in the UK. Good luck. Bonn1e

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Re: Stumped in 1841
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 21 August 14 10:55 BST (UK) »
Hello all,

My apologies for not replying earlier - I somehow missed the notification.

Plummiegirl - I was asking for the whereabouts of William. I had discovered him in Rempstone and thought he was likely to be a member of my family tree so wanted more information to try and tie him in. JMS found Mary Wadkin and family in the 1841 census and wondered if this could be William's wife and children. However, I know that Mary was the widow of John Wadkin - it is John who died before the census. Hope this makes sense, I get in a deep muddle about my own family let alone someone else's :)

JMS Thankyou for those baptisms. It does look as if William was a brother I didn't previously know about. I already had Ann, John, Joseph, Fanny, Richard & Esther but not their baptisms and I didn't know of Elizabeth, Jane, William (until the other day and he is now 'placed' within the family) and Mary. So I now have quite a few more to follow up!

bonne1e Thankyou for reminding me about that site. I had forgotten about it and I expect it will have had quite a lot of information added since I last looked at it.

Brie