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Re: Marriage look up Merchant to Brewin.
« Reply #126 on: Wednesday 17 September 14 21:47 BST (UK) »
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WELCH   LOUISA   1884   OCT   27   14DAYS   ABBEY STREET   SAINT MARGARET   uR   946

The next burial is 10 years ahead, all common burials
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Warren, Northampton, Leicester
Moore, Leicestershire
Hunt, Leicestershire
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Kendrick, Leicestershire
Eld, Leicestershire
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« Reply #127 on: Wednesday 17 September 14 21:51 BST (UK) »
Louisa Welsh
Her birth cert; has arrived, as follows; Born 12 Oct 1884.
Abode; 2 Abbey Street, Leicester---around the corner from Royal East Street.
Father; Robert Welch an Iron Moulder. He registered her birth 25 Oct 1884.
Mother Elizabeth Welch nee Merchant.


BINGO ;D
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Warren, Northampton, Leicester
Moore, Leicestershire
Hunt, Leicestershire
Kirkman, Leicestershire
Hurst, Leicester, Stowmarket
Kendrick, Leicestershire
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Re: Marriage look up Merchant to Brewin.
« Reply #128 on: Wednesday 17 September 14 22:08 BST (UK) »
Hi Willsy, that was quick !  :D... well done and thanks for looking.... sad about Louisa  :'(

As Louisa's birth certificate mentions Abbey Street, Leicester - this is a little bit more on Robert......

Leicester Chronicle and the Leicestershire Mercury Saturday, July 24, 1886
A Deserter - Robert Welch, moulder, lodging in Abbey Street, was charged with being a deserter from the 6th West York Regiment since May 16 - he surrendered himself, but now stated that he was not the man. - He answered the description published in the Gazette, and was remanded until Friday.

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Re: Marriage look up Merchant to Brewin.
« Reply #129 on: Wednesday 17 September 14 22:28 BST (UK) »
Hi Dizzifish, nice find yourself, he slowly keeps popping up ;D
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Ward, Ossett, Newark (Nottingham), Leicester, Scarborough
Warren, Northampton, Leicester
Moore, Leicestershire
Hunt, Leicestershire
Kirkman, Leicestershire
Hurst, Leicester, Stowmarket
Kendrick, Leicestershire
Eld, Leicestershire
Essex Edey/Eady Elsden/Elsdon

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Re: Marriage look up Merchant to Brewin.
« Reply #130 on: Friday 19 September 14 17:21 BST (UK) »
Hello,

You 2 are blooming` marvellous!!!  ;D Fantastic findings Willsy & Dizziefish.  ;D

I`ll follow on with reference to your results shortly but firstly I wanted to post the details of Samuel Brewin`s birth.

Samuel Brewin 4 Jun 1860.
Abode; 4 Dixon's Court, Lincoln.
Father---NONE listed. Mother Fanny Brewin NO maiden name given.
Registered by Fanny Brewin 21 Jun 1860.

CHR/-Samuel Brewin 1 Jul 1860 St Paul-in-the-Bail, Lincoln. Mother Fanny. Father James deceased.
Samuel died 1 Jan 1885, age 24 in the North Sea, a 2nd Hand in the Merchant Marines.

I believe that you were correct with your finding the burial & newspaper details for James & Mary Bruin, that this man was the Husband/partner of Fanny.
Buried; 13 Sep 1858 at Horncastle, East Lindsay District, Lincolnshire. Address; Foundry Street.
James age 32. I`ll try and track down his or Mary`s death GRO to order the cert;

When Samuel married Mary Eliza Flinn he recorded his father as being Benjamin Brewin. He and Mary married 1884 St Andrew, Great Grimsby.

All the above locations are places that we know Fanny & James frequented. In my opinion, James died in 1858 and Fanny had a brief relationship with a Benjamin Brewin, possibly James`s Brother, although I am aware that there were other Benjamin`s born of the same/similar time period.
A Brief relationship, because James died Sep 1858 and Samuel was born Jun 1860 and Fanny was living as a widowed woman in the 1861 census at Lincoln with some of her children and Niece.

If Samuel`s real Father was Benjamin, Brother of James, could that be why he and Susannah Matlock never married? Samuel was informed of his real Father`s details and recorded him in his 1884 marriage entry, could be that others were also aware of his having a different Father?
What do you both think?
Jordan. Bartlett. Arnold. Beaney. Pickett. Brazil.  Huckstep. Eastwood. Potter. Dighton. French----Kent. Bucks. Essex. Sussex. London.  Kirby. Martin----Ireland.
Brewin. Gregory. Dixon. Merchant. Welsh. Leicestershire. Lincolnshire.

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Re: Marriage look up Merchant to Brewin.
« Reply #131 on: Friday 19 September 14 19:51 BST (UK) »
Got to admit I have not chased the siblings as much once you were on the case of the extended family but go with your thoughts, especially after the marriage. I have been trying to find Flo, Jo and Alf with no success whatsoever but did wonder about the J P Kilbride c 1869 Born Bradford living in Lincoln 1911 married to a tattoo artist. It is one I haven't dug into fully yet.
Have you come across it?
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Warren, Northampton, Leicester
Moore, Leicestershire
Hunt, Leicestershire
Kirkman, Leicestershire
Hurst, Leicester, Stowmarket
Kendrick, Leicestershire
Eld, Leicestershire
Essex Edey/Eady Elsden/Elsdon

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Re: Marriage look up Merchant to Brewin.
« Reply #132 on: Friday 19 September 14 20:18 BST (UK) »
Hi Willsy,

I agree with you about the 1911 census as being a good possibility for Joseph Kilbride. It certainly would make sense with them both being artistes.
I am catching up with the rest of this thread and the excellent results that you and Dizziefish have found.

**I meant to add that one of the reasons I am chasing up the extended family of Ellen Glover Brewin, other than getting the handle on them, is the possibility that Ellen or her Daughter Florence Columbius Murphy may have been living with or local to the Brewins/Dixons etc...
Jordan. Bartlett. Arnold. Beaney. Pickett. Brazil.  Huckstep. Eastwood. Potter. Dighton. French----Kent. Bucks. Essex. Sussex. London.  Kirby. Martin----Ireland.
Brewin. Gregory. Dixon. Merchant. Welsh. Leicestershire. Lincolnshire.

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Re: Marriage look up Merchant to Brewin.
« Reply #133 on: Friday 19 September 14 21:41 BST (UK) »
Am with you there, the mothers are never too far so I was hoping Ellen was with Florence and as for Nunkie, just can't find a combination!

Meant to check Florence's daughter at the address 1911 to compare with Joseph, have you beat me to it?
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Ward, Ossett, Newark (Nottingham), Leicester, Scarborough
Warren, Northampton, Leicester
Moore, Leicestershire
Hunt, Leicestershire
Kirkman, Leicestershire
Hurst, Leicester, Stowmarket
Kendrick, Leicestershire
Eld, Leicestershire
Essex Edey/Eady Elsden/Elsdon

Census Transcriptions are Crown Copyright from National Archives

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Re: Marriage look up Merchant to Brewin.
« Reply #134 on: Friday 19 September 14 21:57 BST (UK) »
Hi Willsy,

No I haven`t beaten you to it, ha ha ha. I have tracked down the 1891 census that you picked up on for Robert Welsh in London and I must say it does look promising. I have been tracking down birth entries for Robert Welsh`s, there are a few of them with surname spelling variations, similar ages that that record could apply to but the POB & Job certainly `fit` my Robert. I have quite a bit more that I want to chase up for him tomorrow then I will be able to address your findings properly, try and tie things in a bit more.
In the morning I will order the marriage cert; for Benjamin Brewin & Salome Smith, I decided against ordering the death cert; for Louisa at the moment as we have her burial details to hand-great work---at least I now know that she definitely was not Obinia/Althenia Welsh/Smith.
Off for a cuppa, back tomorrow.
Jordan. Bartlett. Arnold. Beaney. Pickett. Brazil.  Huckstep. Eastwood. Potter. Dighton. French----Kent. Bucks. Essex. Sussex. London.  Kirby. Martin----Ireland.
Brewin. Gregory. Dixon. Merchant. Welsh. Leicestershire. Lincolnshire.