Marriage look up Merchant to Brewin.

[Dizzifish]

Hi Sal...

Just catching up.

I was open minded as to who would be entered as Louisa's father and bear in mind Ellen could say whoever she liked. If I remember correctly I think the newspaper report re the bigamy trial said witnesses saw them in the street " last July" (July 1864) so they had been seen together.

In the beginning and when trying to verify if Joseph Dixon had married Ellen I was guessing the reference to Walley, Essex, could be Warley Camp and had also found the baptism.... but hadn't got any further.

I did a bit more digging because on one census Joseph says he and Ellen were cousins? but I didn't find anything to prove that.

The other observations were: that Joseph was a widower and on the 1841 census (Piece 651 / Book 2 / Folio 11 /Page 16 - St Botolph, Lincoln),and next door is a James Gregory aged 30 yrs and a Grinder, not born in the county (Lincs). Then there is a Mary Dixon aged 85... I thought she might be his mother, which made me wonder re the baptism at Great Warley.

The interesting one in the1841 household is the 15 year old boy, it looks like the name is written Maynes - but, I believe his name is Magnus Dixon.

So, I don't want to lead you up the garden path...... but I think it is interesting, I know you will relate to the coincidences.

There is this marriage for  Magnus Dixon
Parish Bracebridge, Lincolnshire - 13th Nov 1848
Joseph Dixon & Margaret Neal
Grooms father = Joseph & Brides father = Daniel

I can't find an original parish entry on Lincstothepast etc

Updated to add.... found the marriage record - http://www.rootschat.com/links/019vs/
Disappointed to see it is an old style marriage register entry, the GRO version must have names of the fathers?   

I can't find the couple in 1851 but they are here in 1861.

1861 - Piece 2338 /Folio 14 /Page 21 - Vauxhall, Skirbeck, Boston, Lincolnshire
Magnus  Dixon   Head, aged 34 - Grinder - born Nottingham, Nottinghamshire.
Margaret Dixon   Wife - Married - aged 27 - born Derbyshire, England
George   Dixon -Son -  Scholar - born Scarborough, Yorkshire, England
Margaret Dixon,  - aged 7 - Scholar - born Billinghay, Lincolnshire.
Joseph   Dixon, Son - aged 3 - Scholar   Beverley, Yorkshire, England
Catherine Dixon   , Daughter -  - 0   1861 - born Spalding, Lincolnshire, England

Baptism - NOTTINGHAM St Mary - 26th Dec 1826
Magnus Dixon - parents  Joseph & Mary DIXON  - occupation Chimney Sweeper - abode Bloomsbury Place

There are a couple of newspaper reports for Magnus & Margaret Dixon.

7 June 1861 - Stamford Mercury - Margaret Dixon, wife of  Magnus Dixon, scissor-grinder  of Skirbeck, convicted of assault.

21 Sept 1867 -  Maidstone Telegraph - Magnus Dixon, Scissor Grinder - Robbery from the person - committed for trial at Borough Sessions.

9 Nov 1867 - Maidstone Telegraph - Magnus Dixon , aged 40, Umbrella Maker  - acquitted.

I cannot see any of the above 1861 family on other census.

The only other census that I can find Magnus on is in 1881.

1881 - RG11 /Piece 960 /Folio 51/Page 11 - Lodging House, 9, Groves Lane, Canterbury, Kent.
Magnus Dixon, widower, aged 51, Hawker - born Nottingham.

[Sal1525]

Hi Dizziefish,

Aha, just when I thought I would post a recap for records that we need to find for Ellen Glover Brewin & her children to bring us all up to date another line of search appears, all good fun.
Ok, lets chase up the Dixon's & Gregory`s with the view at the end to turn back onto the Brewin family, that sound ok to you? That way we should, hopefully, have a sequenced line of relevant results for everyone to follow.

Louisa Dixon Barnes; I still think that her real Father was John Merchant but you are absolutely right in saying that she could have been Thomas`s Daughter as he lived local to her Mother, but this was a time when he was most probably courting Emma Taylor prior to marrying her? Its one of those family mysteries that will keep people guessing for a long time and never be resolved unless a descendant of Louisa`s, if apt, should appear and be able to say otherwise, but it sure makes searching this family interesting.

In my opinion Eleanor & Joseph Dixon lived together as a couple. She used his surname in the 1841 & 1871 censuses. 1871 stating that they were married, which they were not, but definitely not Cousins. Both dying at the same abode in 1873. Would you agree?
Her death & burial registered with the surname Brewin confirms to me that Ellen & Joseph had not gotten married together at all. The question is was one or both still married to `another` and that possibly be the reason that they did not get married?
Ellen had been married twice before meeting Joseph so no reason for him to have not been married prior to his relationship with Ellen.
Are you in agreement with me that I have found the correct marriage for Ellen to Thomas Glover on the 4 May 1812 at Loughborough?
Joseph or Ellen could have been in trouble with the law at some point during their relationship and been avoiding detection from another party, in regards to her surnames or marital status perhaps?
We need to find out what become of Ellen`s second Husband Benjamin Brewin and try to find an earlier marriage for Joseph if we can.

Both Joseph & Ellen were consistent with their places of birth, I know that does not prove that they were telling the truth but the likelihood that they were is fairly strong to me.
As you know I have posted a request for a look-up for Eleanor Gregory`s baptism 1794-1801 (going by the censuses) for Ely, Cambridgeshire  which has yet to yield a positive result or for someone with access to the records to find the thread and give assistance, if not then at some point I`ll have to track down where to purchase a CD-Rom parish register to try and help find her parents etc... but I`ll save that task for a rainy day.

Joseph Dixon;-between us I think that we have tracked down his correct birth place of Warley, Essex. Birth year 1794-1796 going by the censuses.
There was a Little Warley & a Great Warley in existence but I think the enumerator has mistaken this as Whalley. I feel that the correct baptism record has been found May 1795 Great Warley, Essex but would like to be able to see more of the parish registers to crosscheck or fully confirm this as fact. Parents Moses & Ann Dickson.
There was a place called Warley`s Camp in Essex as detailed at the History Online website which was part of the Army Camp initially based on the Common before it became the location for the Barracks.
Joseph`s Father may have been a Soldier? Involved in the fights; American War of Independence; Napoleonic Wars; 1st Anglo-Burmese War, amongst others? Thus, may explain Moses & Ann moving from Lincolnshire and possibly other areas yet to be revealed if the right couple?

Yes Dizziefish, it had not gone unnoticed by me that there was a James Gregory living as Joseph & Ellen`s immediate neighbour in the 1841 census, with the same profession as Joseph-Grinder. A Brother or Cousin to Ellen ? Working alongside Joseph? Joseph may well have been a widower here or just wanted to give another reason for his living in the same household as Ellen, we need to see what becomes of a marriage search for him.
Mary Dixon age 85. Mother maybe, was the Father widowed and remarried? A possible Aunt or in-law perhaps? I am pleased that you worked out the name for Magnus---I thought it was a misspelling of Martha ha ha!

Good work for the results that you have found for Magnus, I will have more time tomorrow evening to go through them but for now I need to dash for work, sorry about that. Well done Dizziefish

[willsy]

Did you notice the witnesses were Ellen's jnr's sister and brother in law when Magnus married?
Can confirm the marriage too with records I have, father Joseph to Magnus

I must admit, I kept thinking about them being seen together from the newspaper result and looked back at dates.

[Dizzifish]

Hi Willsy.... 

Do you mean the Boswell's ?.... I looked for a marriage, please don't keep me in suspense 

[Dizzifish]

Doh... I see now, I was/am confused, the marriage for Elizabeth Brewin was to Alfred Boswell and the marriage witness for Magnus' marriage is Albert.... which might explain why I couldn't find an Albert Boswell on census.... good job you noticed Willsy, almost sure they must be the same man?

[willsy]

This one you found

29th Aug 1842 St Botolph, Lincoln - Elizabeth Glover Brewen to Alfred Boswell
Brides father: Benjamin Brewen
Grooms father: Zachariah Boswell

ALSO 1871 Margaret Dixon I reckon with Catherine matching 1861 and further children Magnus c1867, Mary c1863, Julia c1865
Brook Street Wilson Court Lodging House, Chatham, Kent
RG10/909/59/9

[willsy]

Suddenly thought, have you now got a copy of Benjamin and Eleanor's marriage ?

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NJJQ-9ZG

have you used this yet ?

https://familysearch.org/learn/wiki/en/Photoduplication_Services

[willsy]

Another little gem

James Bruin
Gender:    Male
Christening Date:    13 Mar 1826
Christening Place:    HORNCASTLE,LINCOLN,ENGLAND
Father's Name:    Benjmn. Bruin
Mother's Name:    Eleanor

online, Benjamin stocking maker, Leicester

[Dizzifish]

Good find Willsy re Margaret Dixon and children in 1871 in Chatham.... Margaret now says she was born Lincolnshire and if Magnus junior was born in Kent where is his birth registration?

It would be great if we could get hold of copy of Benjamin & Eleanor's marriage at Sculcoates, at least it should confirm if Ellen was a widow.

Just noticed your post re James Bruin... someone else to follow up 
Here is the link to the baptism at Horncastle = http://www.rootschat.com/links/019w5/

Back tomorrow