Advice needed with name mystery

[ClementsM]

I ordered the death certificate of my great grandfather via the GRO and requested the death cert for the name James Holland which was his name.

When i received the death certificate back from the GRO the name of the deceased was stated as “James Holman otherwise Holland”

The handwriting on the certificate is quite difficult to read so the name is either Holman or Hollman – nevertheless I am trying to understand why he would have been known as Holman otherwise Holland?

Can somebody help me solve this puzzle?

Thank you,
Marcus

[glenclare]

Hello,

At some point in his life he has obviously used or was given the other surname. It could be for any number of reasons. Do you have any other link to the name Hollman ?

Would you like to give the details of James and we could try and find a reason.

[jim1]

A couple of common reasons are that he was illegitimate & was baptised under his mother's name but known under his father's.
He was baptised under one name but his mother remarried & was known under the new husband's name.
Ditto above & we'll see what we can find.

jim

[GR2]

Does he consistently appear under the same name in censuses?

[ClementsM]

Thanks for the quick reply.

I am happy to give as much detail as i have to ascertain why this would be – what do you need?
I do not have his birth cert yet as I need to know what surname to request via GRO and this can either be Holland / Holman / Hollman or Hollands with an S on the end.

I have the birth cert of his daughter and his surname is spelt Hollands with an S on the end.

I have not located any other connections within my family to the name Holman yet

Thanks,
Marcus

[avm228]

The info we need to help you is relevant dates & places & other details so that we can identify him in available records.

Picking up on another of your threads, is he James Holland d Romford Dec qtr 1918 aged 37, who may have fathered one or more children (as Holland or Hollands) with Emily Butti?

www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=657068.msg5029953#msg5029953

I see that the death is indexed under both Holman and Holland.

What occupation was recorded for him on the death certificate?

[Sandymc47]

Marcus have you got the year your relative died, how old was he and where about  in the
World he was living.  That will help people to try an find him on the census etc.  Thanks

[ClementsM]

Yes it's the same James "Holland" as my previous thread. Died Romford Dec qtr 1918 aged 37.
James was a labourer at a sugar works. Now the main sugar works in that area around the early 1900's was Tate and Lyle. I had thought that he had died during the Silvertown Explosion. If you Google the Silvertown explosion you will see what I mean however the year he died was slightly later but then I thought he may have died later as an indirect result of the explosion but I cannot obtain any details of this.
The bigger block for me is his surname.
Thanks all for your help
Marcus

[sugarbakers]

Marcus ... what was the address on the death cert, and the cause of death ?

As yet I've no record of James H***** as a sugarhouse labourer at either Lyles or Tates (they did not amalgamate until 1921), and no employee lists have survived for either refinery. The death cert is probably the only surviving record of his employment there.

Neither of the books recording the histories of the companies mention fatalities as a result of the Silvertown Explosion. Damage at the refineries was minimal considering their proximity to Brunner Mond, and knowing what was manufactured there most workers left the refineries sharpish as soon as the fire began.

Considering the info in your previous thread along with the 1911 census, have you followed up on James John Holland born Croydon 1882 ?  (The other James Francis Hollands Croydon 1881 married Maud Hart 1906).