Mabel Alice Rickard nee Blair

[Beg Clonrode...]

Hi again...

I've PM'd you the folio numbers for the 1919 birth, the 1938 marriage and the 1956 marriage.

For what it's worth, if you intend to buy a certificate I'd still suggest the 1919 birth certificate over the marriage certificates. On a marriage certificate the parents are secondary information whereas on a birth certificate they are primary information.

I don't know if they do printouts for non-historical records. You'd need to ask when ordering. A printout (scan) of the register is preferable to, and cheaper than, a certificate transcribed from the register.

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Starting an ITM look-up thread is a great idea. I hadn't picked up on the bride being a minor. Nice one Lucy. But again, any parents mentioned on an ITM are secondary information. For an ITM look-up thread you need to specify where and when-ish the marriage took place.

The 1919 birth was registered in Palmerston North so maybe before doing anything else check the 1919 electoral roll for any RICKARDs living in Palmerston North.

Regards
Beg

[bundygirlsmum]

I got your pm, thanks. I did reply but I think I did it wrong. What is a 'look-up thread'. Sorry to be a bother. I imagine this would all be much easier if I moved back home lol.

Thanks again for all your help.

Cheers
Wendy

[Beg Clonrode...]

Hi again...

Somewhat bizarre but I googled Irene REES and came across her/your previous Rootschat thread. It's exactly two years ago to the day that I gave you the same "non-historical" spiel :-) Unsurprisingly overlooked because of Newbe's generous actions but it's good to know that Google is keeping an eye on us all.

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An ITM look-up entails a very kind Rootschatter visiting Wellington Archives on your behalf and looking up the paperwork that the bridal party had to fill in before they got married. In the case of a minor it often mentions a parent.

Unfortunately for post-1881 marriages you need to know the date and place of the marriage. It's unfair to expect the looker-upper to trawl through thousands of marriages, especially in the major cities.

Here is some background info on ITMs...

http://www.rootschat.com/links/0vr2/

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In your thread of two years ago you sounded unsure of Irene's year of birth. Unless something has changed since that time it may pay to play it safe and purchase the 1938 marriage certificate as you definitely know when that happened.

Personally I'd still go with the 1919 birth of Irene Margaret RICKARD in Palmerston North as it matches her name, fits with her age at death and Palmerston North seems to be a theme.... but you're the one spending the money.

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And if you've not seen it here is Irene's will...

http://www.rootschat.com/links/019ak/

Regards
Beg

[kiwihalfpint]

Here is the link to that thread, to save up doubling info and refresh memories.


http://www.rootschat.com/links/019al/


Cheers
KHP

[bundygirlsmum]

Well. I have just seen the will and even though there were no surprises I was sad that I never knew her. I see where my mother got her handwriting from. I will get more 'together' tomorrow. Thanks so much to you all.

P.S. The discoveries that Newbie helped with culminated with my daughter and I going to Christchurch in March this year to lay my Mothers ashes with my brother.

Seriously wonderful people on this site.

[Kiwi In Oz]

hello all ~ i am the grand daughter of Joy Margaret Rees- Odgers
i am trying to find info on my grand father Peter Ivan Murrell ~ i know that he was working on the railways in Ormondville NZ but not much other info ~ my nana passed away before i could get the info she had. ( BundyGirlsMum) is my auntie name removed
i would appreciate any help you may have ~ i have taken noted from this thread and am trying to sort it all out ~ Stanley William Rees is my great grand dad ~ i am hoping to find anything really as well as photos if there are any ~ Thank-You in advance
kind regards
Kiwi In Oz

[Beg Clonrode...]

i am trying to find info on my grand father Peter Ivan Murrell

Hello...

Welcome to Rootschat

The following online tree may give you a starting point for tracing Peter Ivan MURRELL and the MURRELL family. Not sure if there are contact details for the tree owner.

http://www.myheritage.com/site-family-tree-126841121/murrell

It pays to take online trees with a pinch of salt. Having said that, this one does have a lot of family photos so it seems as if it was created by a MURRELL family member.

If you want to verify everything for yourself it would be best to start by purchasing a printout of the Peter MURRELL to Joy REES marriage register entry. They were married in NZ in the mid-1950's.

You can get the exact reference number for the marriage from the NZ BDM Marriages fiche found at many of the larger NZ libraries. Then phone BDM NZ, give them the reference number and your credit card details (it costs NZ$20.60) and they'll email you a printout (scan) of the marriage register. The "Parents Details" will take you back one generation.

Regards
Beg

[minniehaha]

The death of Peter Ivan MURRELL does not appear on the NZ BDM on line index.........



Minniehaha.

[Beg Clonrode...]

[...] it would be best to start by purchasing a printout of the Peter MURRELL to Joy REES marriage register entry.

You can get the exact reference number for the marriage from the NZ BDM Marriages fiche found at many of the larger NZ libraries.

Hi again...

Silly me :-) I forgot that the reference number on the Marriages fiche is the same as the reference number on the Marriage CD. So I got the number from the CD and sent it to you via a PM (Personal Message). You'll need one more post (three posts in total) to access your PM Inbox.

Regards
Beg