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Offline Annette7

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Re: Need Advice
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 05 August 14 12:34 BST (UK) »
Quite honesty, I really don't know where you go from here.

You say he was brought up in an orphanage in Torino - did he ever speak of family, siblings?   If not, it's quite possible that he was left at the orphanage as a baby and the orphanage named him.   Even if that was able to be proved there would be nothing further that could be done with no known family line to follow.

Any answers must lie in Torino but cannot see online any families with the names he had.   I suspect he was probably named by the orphanage.

Sorry I can't be of more help.

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« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 05 August 14 12:54 BST (UK) »
I wonder whether "Joe" was an American approximation of the "dio" sound at the end of Concordio?
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 05 August 14 12:54 BST (UK) »
It might be worth emailing the archives/library in Turin to see if they have any records of orphanages; if nothing else, they may be able to point you in the right direction.

http://archiviodistatotorino.beniculturali.it/Site/index.php/en/home

Looking at this bit of the website http://archiviodistatotorino.beniculturali.it/work/elemdetot.php?uid=300903 it does seem that they have orphanage records from 1732 - 1950

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« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 05 August 14 13:04 BST (UK) »
I see that "Serafino Concordia" arrived in the US - on the Britannia - in 1896:

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/KD4Q-L63

You say that he can be ruled out because the date is wrong, but as to the date presumably all that is known for certain is that he was in the US in time to marry in 1897?

He does not appear to have been consistent about his immigration date if as you say one version held that it was 1892.  The census extracts available on Familysearch suggest later dates:

1910 census - immigrated "1900": https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/MKW6-H44

1920 census - immigrated "1899": https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/MXDY-CJ8

In my experience with immigrants to the US, there can also be discrepancies between "immigration" dates due to more than one trip having been made.  Sometimes people went to and fro a bit before finally settling.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)


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Re: Need Advice
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 05 August 14 23:40 BST (UK) »
It might be worth emailing the archives/library in Turin to see if they have any records of orphanages; if nothing else, they may be able to point you in the right direction.

http://archiviodistatotorino.beniculturali.it/Site/index.php/en/home

Looking at this bit of the website http://archiviodistatotorino.beniculturali.it/work/elemdetot.php?uid=300903 it does seem that they have orphanage records from 1732 - 1950


Thank you...I did email this morning asking about an orphan born in 1865 in Torino and living in orphanage until age 16 named Concordino Stefano or any variation likely...hoping to receive something.  Only other idea is one of those people who speak to the dead???????