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What would you do?
« on: Monday 04 August 14 19:02 BST (UK) »
I just wondered if this has ever happened to anyone on here.

I was looking for some info on my dad's sister who never really had any contact with my family. She married but she and her husband...a Mr. Y.... separated not long after they were married. They did not divorce as both of them were devout Roman Catholics. They never had any children which came as a surprise to me because I know that this aunt had two children. My older brother remembers them.

The thing is too that my mum always insisted that this aunt was married to a Mr X which I now know was a fabrication.

I have never met these two cousins. Their births were registered with their correct birth father (Mr X) but I know that they used and were known by their mother's married surname from her first marriage.

As I know now their father did not marry their mother so they are illegitimate. I'm not sure that they would be aware of this fact as my aunt clearly lied about her married name. She gave it as X. She even went back five or six years later and restated the information by way of a declaration. Pretty strange and confusing since her children were known by her first husband's surname.

Okay that's complicated enough but now it gets a bit more.

While trying find out something about them I discovered that their birth father (Mr X) was a bigamist. He had one legal wife with a child living. He subsequently over the years married two other women. With one of these women he had two more children.

So in total he had five children with three different women that I know about.

This is where I need some advice.

As a result of all my messing about I have now been in contact with two of these children...half sibs of my cousins. They would like me to track down my cousins and let them know they have half siblings.

They would prefer that I do it and break the news of their existence as I am a relative. A reasonable request I guess but I'm a complete stranger too if you think about it.

I should also say that I have also been in contact with the family of his last wife. All the parties involved in this situation are aware of each other and know the whole story except my cousins. Well that is an assumption on my part but if they have never done any research on their family tree they would likely not know the history.

The thing is I don't know whether I should do this or whether I should just leave it as it stands and mind my own business. I know...I should have done that in the first place...LOL  My cousins and I have never met. Should I find them...if I can...and let them know about their father and their siblings?

I really have no idea what to do. Has this happened to anyone on here and what was the result?

I feel that I may be opening a huge can of worms and that it would be a huge mistake  :-\

mab
Census information is Crown copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Inishowen: Meenamullaghan (Big Hill), Foffenagh (Rock), Illies and area...mainly McCallion, Doherty, Bradley, Grant, Devlin
Kilmacrenan: Gortnacorrib....Bonner
Scotland: Bonar, Boner Bonner etc
Conwal: Kirkstown.....Toner, Parke
Derry City: Bonner, McGowan, McGilloway, McElwee, Bradley
Omagh: Bradley
Fanad Penninsular, Donegal.....McBride, Friel, Fielty
Sligo: McGowan

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Re: What would you do?
« Reply #1 on: Monday 04 August 14 19:20 BST (UK) »
OOh what a pickle....

and a difficult one to sort.

Me myself, I would not get involved any deeper.  If you found all this information then so can the people involved... Maybe just lead them to the information.  BUT certainly let THEM make the moves regarding contact.

just my opinion


as an addendum, during my research, I have found things, that affect my cousins more than myself and have preferred to stay quiet about it.  Its just my way.  There are too many emotions involved in these situations and you dont want to be the one that is blamed if things dont work out.

xin

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Re: What would you do?
« Reply #2 on: Monday 04 August 14 19:25 BST (UK) »
OOh what a pickle....

and a difficult one to sort.

Me myself, I would not get involved any deeper.  If you found all this information then so can the people involved... Maybe just lead them to the information.  BUT certainly let THEM make the moves regarding contact.

just my opinion

xin

I agree bit close to home, and sometimes peeps don't want to know the truth.  BUT saying that, I would, and thank you, I guess - Difficult one to call not knowing the peeps involved  :-\ or  :-X or  :P
Good luck on what you decide :)

Cas
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Re: What would you do?
« Reply #3 on: Monday 04 August 14 19:32 BST (UK) »
I should also say that in the last six months I have finally been in contact with some of my family through Facebook. One cousin who I hadn't heard from in 60 years tracked me down. Through her I have been in contact with many more relatives.

She had been in contact with the two cousins I mentioned when she was younger but has no idea where they are now.

I haven't told her or any of my family about this whole mess. She of all people may be able to track them down but I really don't think I have the right to tell her what I have found.

mab

Census information is Crown copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Inishowen: Meenamullaghan (Big Hill), Foffenagh (Rock), Illies and area...mainly McCallion, Doherty, Bradley, Grant, Devlin
Kilmacrenan: Gortnacorrib....Bonner
Scotland: Bonar, Boner Bonner etc
Conwal: Kirkstown.....Toner, Parke
Derry City: Bonner, McGowan, McGilloway, McElwee, Bradley
Omagh: Bradley
Fanad Penninsular, Donegal.....McBride, Friel, Fielty
Sligo: McGowan


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Re: What would you do?
« Reply #4 on: Monday 04 August 14 19:43 BST (UK) »
I should also say that in the last six months I have finally been in contact with some of my family through Facebook. One cousin who I hadn't heard from in 60 years tracked me down. Through her I have been in contact with many more relatives.

She had been in contact with the two cousins I mentioned when she was younger but has no idea where they are now.

I haven't told her or any of my family about this whole mess. She of all people may be able to track them down but I really don't think I have the right to tell her what I have found.

mab



Is she interested or researching family history, or is a family facebook connection only?

Most diehard family researchers would want plain facts. IF she is just a relative and your gut is saying no, don't do it, keep to yourself if it will upset..Just my thoughts. what is past is past unless the truth will out.

Cas
Census information is Crown Copyright www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Squire/Thomas/Williams/Bowen/Lewis/Davies/Jones/Rees/Morgan/Lloyd - Glamorgan
Lewis/Davies - Breckonshire
Davies/Roderick - Myddfai Carms
Thackwell/Thomas - Hereford/Monmouthshire
Shoemac/Squire/Keirle/Small - Somerset
Berry/Baggot/Lee/Clayton - Lancs
Yelland/Bray/Trethewey - Cornwall
Baggot/Hurley/Keaveny/Shiel/Flynn - Ireland

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Re: What would you do?
« Reply #5 on: Monday 04 August 14 19:53 BST (UK) »
Initial response ,leave well alone!

Having discovered two half siblings quite by accident,  still looking for one, I have encountered
much resistance with family members who possibly know the truth and could help.  The most surprising comment was why would I want to know?
Sadly, my discovery came after the death of my parents.
However, I have to say that I am still searching as it is part of my family history. Just be very aware
the impact this may have on all involved.

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Re: What would you do?
« Reply #6 on: Monday 04 August 14 20:03 BST (UK) »
I agree with what has been said by others. It might be very different if you knew the cousins, had grown up with them and were close. As it is, although on paper you are a relative, in reality you are a complete stranger. I think I would explain to the half siblings of your cousins that you don't really feel that you have the right to pass on the information and that infact they are closer related than you are. You could say that you will make some enquiries, but if you do discover where they are will then leave them to make the contact.
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Re: What would you do?
« Reply #7 on: Monday 04 August 14 20:18 BST (UK) »
Thank you everyone for your comments :)

I think that maybe my aunt went to great pains to keep some parts of her life secret so I'll just leave it be for now.

Maybe an opportunity will come along one day that will resolve all this.

mab

Census information is Crown copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Inishowen: Meenamullaghan (Big Hill), Foffenagh (Rock), Illies and area...mainly McCallion, Doherty, Bradley, Grant, Devlin
Kilmacrenan: Gortnacorrib....Bonner
Scotland: Bonar, Boner Bonner etc
Conwal: Kirkstown.....Toner, Parke
Derry City: Bonner, McGowan, McGilloway, McElwee, Bradley
Omagh: Bradley
Fanad Penninsular, Donegal.....McBride, Friel, Fielty
Sligo: McGowan

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Re: What would you do?
« Reply #8 on: Monday 27 October 14 02:01 GMT (UK) »
My hubby's grandfather was a bigamist and a descendant from second family found me as they had a duplicate photo. I told her there were details she may not want to know, should I tell her a bit more?
She knew there was something about from the secrecy over the years. I told her bit by bit and she was glad to know. However her aunts were devasted and did not believe that their father was such a person. You could ask if there is anyone interested in genealogy in the family, then tell them you have proof of something if they ever want to inquire more. History is history for our generation, but when it literally is close to home, a direct parent, the information could be devastating!
Being the family snoop and the "older generation" now all the ancestors gone...I am more open to information...but my siblings bore when I reveal great family info so I wouldn't bother with the bad.....sigh....
 
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