David Richard/Richards of Strygosfawr, Lledrod.

[despair]

I've found another reference to Rhyd Lwyd - a 1761 indent for a 20 yer lease to David Williams of Lledrod,yeoman.
You also quoted a reference to Elizabeth Richards,widow of David of Ffos in 1762,presumably the one later referred to in 1777.

Regards
Roger

[Viking666]

The Letticia that I mentioned from the Pew document showing her as of Rhyd Llwyd is the widow of David of Ffos. The Elizabeth Richards, widow, (Fine doc) is the mother of Edward and john etc.
 I keep getting '0' results from LlGC when I search for the will  of David Davies, 1806. Perhaps the Margaret Richard in this Will will prove to be a link to our recent enquiries into the sister of Edward and John etc.
The Indent from 1761 shows the Williams moving from Rhyd Llwyd to Llanilar?
                                                            Regards, Peter.

[despair]

Try this link

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01jep/

Viewing link on right.

Regards
Roger

[Viking666]

Wrote 'Lledrod' instead of 'Caron'. Just read the will again.
  The cash bequeathed to the various folk named in the will is provided by drawing on the 'note' of David Richard and his wife Ann, (they live at Garn Llwyd), and that of another note from John Davies, Glyn. David has three sisters in this will because there are three nieces with the surname of; Rowlands, Cox and Lloyd. The Margaret Rowlands seems to be the only one associated in the Will with Rhyd Llwyd.
  Theophilus Jones is the executor of the Will ... his wife also is bequeathed the remains of the tenancy of the house, 'Penlan'.
                                         Regards, Peter

[despair]

I wonder if there is any further clue to "nephew" Joseph in the rather motley crew with him in the 1841 census.
I have looked to see if there is any evidence of an "adult baptism" which might help,but to no avail so far.

Regards
Roger

[Viking666]

 I now have the Tithe Records for 1798. The problem that I have with locating out-of-the-ordinary items on the Internet is that I have a Windows 10 computer and a Windows 95 brain!
 I see that David and Richard Richards, (sons of David of Ffos), are entered; David at Tynllan and Richard at Tynant Uchaf, Bethania, just a short walk to Tynllan. Before this date he is shown at Ty'n yr Esgair close to the mill at Bronnant and, as he used to own the mill at Lledrod with David, may have continued milling after he and David sold that mill.
 What are the names of the servants in the 1841 census for Joseph Davies?
                                             Regards, Peter

[despair]

The others with Joseph in the order they are given

Evan Morgans  b 1826
Thomas Pugh   b 1831
Jane Evans      b 1801
John Rowlands b 1821

Regards
Roger

[despair]

The start of a vague connection?
The Thomas Pugh(aged 10) with Joseph in 1841 may be the same one as a nephew(aged 22) with
Elinor Evans,circa 1811 at Cwmffrwd in 1851(though admittedly he  would have to appear twice in 1841 as he is there with Elinor in 1841,as well as a Margaret Evans b.1767)However,there is a baptismal record for Thomas Pugh,born 1828 to Stephen Pugh and Mary Evans of Cwmffrwd,so this property,and an Evans family is clearly involved.
There is also a Jane Evans(c.1801) with Joseph in 1841and a John Rowlands.
The 1851 census also has an Evans family and a Rowlands family(possibly with the Evans son at the Rowlands),which may help tie in as a family group at properties called Pen y Cnwch and Tan y Cnwch.
These properties are near the Clawdd Cerrig/Llwyn Goffre grouping
The possibly more interesting fact is that Cwmffrwd was the 1753 will address of the "other" Edward Richard  of Ystrad Meurig,who left his property including a Pant y Ffynon,to a Margaret Richard,whose status is awkwardly worded.

Maybe your Richards are related to the other Edward Richard(s) of Ystrad Meurig!

Regards
Roger

[Viking666]

 I thought that there could be some link from the servants to someone we know but I see that they are all too young. The John Rowlands that's shown could be related to the Margaret Rowlands of Rhyd Llwyd. (Perhaps her son).
 A search for John Rowlands in the 1861 census produces one in Gwnnws, aged 42, unmarried. He is shown as a Farmer.
  Of interest is that he has 4 servants; Joseph Davies, (1844), Richard Davies, (1845), Mary Richard, (1834) and Jane James, (1846).
                                                Regards, Peter