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Re: David Richard/Richards of Strygosfawr, Lledrod.
« Reply #198 on: Wednesday 22 October 14 19:48 BST (UK) »
Panic over ... found the Will. Give me some time to read it.
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Re: David Richard/Richards of Strygosfawr, Lledrod.
« Reply #199 on: Wednesday 22 October 14 21:03 BST (UK) »
Just tried to read the Will. At a glance it looks as if it's written in Hebrew but over the next day or so we'll manage to decipher some of the names and places.
 At a glance, this David looks to be the family of David Richards of Strygosfawr. In fact, on the 3rd page of this topic I wrote the following.
 "This is obviously not David of Ffos ... the details fit the "New" David mentioned in my last post.
We need now to concentrate on Edward, the brother of this David Richards."

 And that was a far as it went I think.
 This Rev. Edward Richards had 6 sons, (one, Edward Bridges Richards is deceased at this time), and 3 daughters which is much more like my Richards family. Plenty of money in the will; his daughters get £1,000 each and one gets £1,000 plus an annuity of £400. The properties for the sons have the names of places that we know of in the Lledrod and Caron area.
 Edward seems to have married Mary, the daughter of Sir. (S....y) Bridges, Knight, explaining the source of the cash. I need to read it over and over before I fully understand who's who and where's where. We probably already have lots of info on the Richards in Strygosfawr ... it just needs to be dug up and sorted out.
 Thanks for the drum-roll ... clash of cymbals will follow!
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Re: David Richard/Richards of Strygosfawr, Lledrod.
« Reply #200 on: Wednesday 22 October 14 21:25 BST (UK) »
It reads as if Edward was due money from James and John rather than bequeathing it to them.
There is mention of a nephew Joseph Davi(e)s which implies a sister for the brothers as well.
There is a Joseph Davies at Ynys y Berfedd in the 1841 census,but no obvious immediate family at the same address.There is a record for a Joseph Davies(1794-1872) at Lledrod.
The will is not the easiest read,but it gets a little easier with repeated attempts.
The family of Mary Bridges(married 1800 in Epsom) is on Histfam.I don't think Sir Henry was her father,but obviously the same family.They appeared to have owned a (gun) powder mill!.

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Re: David Richard/Richards of Strygosfawr, Lledrod.
« Reply #201 on: Wednesday 22 October 14 23:34 BST (UK) »
In the Lledrod MIs(copyright Cardiganshire FHS),next to the grave of Joseph Davies are Owen Davies(1733-1812) and his wife Jane(1755-1822),also Ynys y Berfedd,implying a sister for Edward,John and James,i.e. Jane Richards born 1755?

This might also be a useful document
Martin, Shirley A. 

Title
The Reverend Edward Richards, his son George and their connection with Epsom, Surrey and Tregaron and Lledrod, Ceredigion / Shirley Martin. 

In
Cardiganshire Family History Society journal = Cylchgrawn Cymdeithas Hanes Teuluoedd Ceredigion. Vol. 6, no. 6 (October 2012), p. 147-149. (WlAbNL)003038791

I had hoped Genfair would have a copy.They seem to currently have the editions either side,but not the one referred to.

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Roger


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Re: David Richard/Richards of Strygosfawr, Lledrod.
« Reply #202 on: Thursday 23 October 14 08:24 BST (UK) »
The latest data has reminded me of why Ynys y Garn rang a bell.There are references to "Ynys y Garn y Berfedd".It made me wonder if Ynys y Garn and Ynys y Berfedd were actually synonymous,with possible implications re the (family) connection between Edward Richard(s),schoolmaster and the current family.

The second reference to Ynys y Berfedd in the following suggests this is possible(or that they were adjacent?)

http://www.dyfedarchaeology.org.uk/projects/corscaron2010.pdf

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Re: David Richard/Richards of Strygosfawr, Lledrod.
« Reply #203 on: Thursday 23 October 14 09:51 BST (UK) »
I have had a look at the will of Thomas Oliver,and it says "...Ynys y Garn and Ynys y Berfedd...."

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Re: David Richard/Richards of Strygosfawr, Lledrod.
« Reply #204 on: Thursday 23 October 14 11:28 BST (UK) »
The will of Thomas Oliver of 1745. I have it transposed and quote this ....
"devised all his lands called Ynys Y Garn Y Berfedd, Lledrod."
 And later in another doc...
" At 1835, the endowment mounted to £150, being the farm's rent."
 It looks as if they are the same place although the school, when opened in 1734, was described as newly constructed. Looking back, Edward Richard always described himself as 'of Brynperfedd'. On the old Parish map there isn't an Ynys y Garn shown in Lledrod (Upper). Looking at where Ynys Perfedd is situated, it's a strange place to build a school.
I agree that John and James and Joseph Davies owed either  loans, or rents on property. John had Bryn Issaf in his name and James had his house in Llandyfrydog. I wonder too whether the Joseph Davies is a relative of the William Davies shown at Penbryn.
The Bridges family fortunes start with Canon Alexander Henry Bridges. He acquired Beddington Park in the 1750's. His son was the Sir Alexander Bridges, B1786, married Frances Dalrymple in1808, and the Knighthood was created in 1814. Looking at his DOB, Mary could be his sister.
I can't get access to the Cardiganshire FHS.
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Re: David Richard/Richards of Strygosfawr, Lledrod.
« Reply #205 on: Thursday 23 October 14 11:39 BST (UK) »
Another snippet...

"The Indenture, which is dated the 1st of July, 1746, recites that Mr. OLIVER by his Will gave and devised all those his lands, called " Ynys y Garn y Berfydd," in the Parish of Lledrod, in order to maintain a Grammar School there, for the edu cating FORTY Children in Parcel Ycha, in that Parish, in the principles of the Church of England, and as far beyond the Grammar as the Masters for the time being should be capable"
Thomas Oliver was the Vicar of Dudley, Worcs.
Another quote...
 " By his Will, bearing date the 21st of May, 1745, he left for that purpose a small Farm, which he possessed by inheritance in this Parish,
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Richards in Patagonia and Canada. Owens and Williams in Holyhead. Laird family, Birkenhead. Richards-Bridges family, Epsom.

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Re: David Richard/Richards of Strygosfawr, Lledrod.
« Reply #206 on: Thursday 23 October 14 12:08 BST (UK) »
Info. From the Clerical List.
[RICHARDS, Edward s. David of Lledrod, co. Cardigan, gent. Jesus Coll. matric. 15 May 1789 aged 24. See Gent.'s Mag., 1833, ii. 551.]
 This gives us his DoB as being 1765. (John 1760, James 1763) We see that his father was David, of Lledrod.
                    Regards, Peter.

 
Richards in Anglesey. Liverpool, Cardiganshire.
Richards in Patagonia and Canada. Owens and Williams in Holyhead. Laird family, Birkenhead. Richards-Bridges family, Epsom.