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Re: David Richard/Richards of Strygosfawr, Lledrod.
« Reply #117 on: Saturday 30 August 14 08:25 BST (UK) »
  Yes, I've seen this will. Of interest are mentions of Thomas, Edward and Oliver, as well as Morris. (there is Edward, the son, who may not be the same person). The daughter looks to be called Ranna but, like the property mentioned as Y ... ....llwid, is so difficult to read as to be of no use in pinpointing this David Richard.
 In the 1721 will of Jenkin Richard (Llangwyryfon), there is also a Morris, (his brother), and sisters Mary and Margaret.   
( Curiosity - I see that Evan Roos is the Executor, and David Roos is a witness. You may be familiar with the Roos family of Amlwch, Lawyers and businessmen, very influential in the copper and shipping trade as well. They were reputedly from Holland and arrived during the 1500's. James' son Edward, married Maria Roos. The name is common here as Röös)           
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Re: David Richard/Richards of Strygosfawr, Lledrod.
« Reply #118 on: Saturday 30 August 14 08:45 BST (UK) »
I'll re read the will to see if I can identify the property.I suspect the name is Rees not Roos.
Also the daughter is probably Hanna.
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Re: David Richard/Richards of Strygosfawr, Lledrod.
« Reply #119 on: Saturday 30 August 14 09:56 BST (UK) »
I can't see a property mentioned.If you are referring to the recital at the beginning,I think it says "....David Richard of the parishe of Llanvihngel Lletherod...."

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Re: David Richard/Richards of Strygosfawr, Lledrod.
« Reply #120 on: Saturday 30 August 14 11:33 BST (UK) »
  The property that I refer to comes after, " of the lands called" ...then it's the first words of the 18th line. Now that you've shown that her name was Hanna, I can read the whole thing a lot easier; what looks like the letter 'R' throughout the will  is actually 'H' .
  I thought that the witness was Roos, because the name appears in the will as executor, written to look like Roos. However, I see that the scribe has written on his behalf as a witness, and the strange squiggle alongside is actually Rees's mark.
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Re: David Richard/Richards of Strygosfawr, Lledrod.
« Reply #121 on: Saturday 30 August 14 11:49 BST (UK) »
I can't quite be sure,but I suspect it's a variant of bryn merllyd,possibly bron mertllwid or similar.

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Re: David Richard/Richards of Strygosfawr, Lledrod.
« Reply #122 on: Saturday 30 August 14 13:29 BST (UK) »
 I've found the place .... Bronwenllwyd. It still exists and is a short distance from Bryn Issaf etc. (Go west and up a bit).
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Re: David Richard/Richards of Strygosfawr, Lledrod.
« Reply #123 on: Saturday 30 August 14 18:01 BST (UK) »
I came across the following dated 1920
 
Summary
Report of the result of an inspection of the benefice of Llangwyryfon, co. Card. and Diocese of St Davids, made in accordance with the provisions of the Ecclesiastical Dilapidations Act 1871, by F. Garnons Williams, Diocesan Surveyor. The buildings of the benefice comprise The Vicarage, Bryngader Farm in p. Llanilar, and Bryn issa Farm in p. Lledrod. 
 
The benefice of Llangwyryfon comprises Llanilar with Rhostie,Llangwyryfon with Llanfihangel Lledrod and Llanwnnws.

Looking at the CCED database for Llanilar and Llangwyryfon there is an Owen Owen(s),presumably the Owen F Owen(s) you referred to in another thread.

With the references in indentures finishing 1777,I wonder with John Richards going into the Ministry not long after(?),perhaps some informal arrangement happened with the diocese for occupation.

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Re: David Richard/Richards of Strygosfawr, Lledrod.
« Reply #124 on: Saturday 30 August 14 18:58 BST (UK) »
 All that I remember is that in Edward Richard's will he left quite a lot of property to the school at Ystradmeurig. In addition to that bequest there were other bequests pre-dating his death that may have made provision for the Church to use other properties, (Bryn Issaf may have been one of them). The Rev. Owen Owen was recorded as living there in 1798 and he may have been a retired Clerk or the actual Vicar of the combined parishes of the area. (Rev. John was the Vicar of the parish of Llanerchymedd but also the Vicar of 5 other parishes).
Here is just one of those bequests.

1757. Edward Richards, Schoolmaster. Accordingly in 1757 he gave to the Bishop of St Davids, Viscount Lisburne, William Powell, clerk, of Nanteos, James Lloyd of Mabws, and Thomas Hughes of Hendrefelin, in trust, 'the messuage, tenement and lands, with the appurtenances, commonly called Bryn-pervedd, situate in the lordship of Sputty,' and other properties to pay a schoolmaster, etc....
 I agree with you in thinking that the church, and the school at Ystradmeurig, through Edward Richard, had a finger in John becoming a cleric. Living in a place like Bryn Issa he must have had a helping hand to manage an Oxford education. (He isn't referred to as 'pauper' or 'plebian' in Alumni Oxfordiensis).
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Re: David Richard/Richards of Strygosfawr, Lledrod.
« Reply #125 on: Sunday 31 August 14 10:54 BST (UK) »
P.S. to my last paragraph. 1757 was also the date that David Richards moved into Ffosybleiddiaid.
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Richards in Anglesey. Liverpool, Cardiganshire.
Richards in Patagonia and Canada. Owens and Williams in Holyhead. Laird family, Birkenhead. Richards-Bridges family, Epsom.