David Richard/Richards of Strygosfawr, Lledrod.

[despair]

I was trying something of the sort with the following:

In the 1769 reference to David Richards,son and heir of Thomas Richards(deceased) of Strygos,it refers to previous tenures of Magdalen Richards,David Richards and Richard David.
Compare this with the 1721 reference to the grant by David Richard of Ynis Pervedd and his son Richard David to Thomas Richard of Bwlch y Ddwyallt.There is a 1712 will of Jenkin Howell of Bwlch y Ddwty Allt.
There is the 1722 will of David Richard of Clawdd Kerrig,Ystwyth whgich appears under Ystrad Meurig in the NLW search,in which he refers to his wife Magdalen Jenkin(daughter of Jenkin Howell?) and his father Richard Thomas.Perhaps he was known as Thomas Richard or had a son of that name.Either could then be the 1769 Thomas Richards?)
Perhaps the previous tenants of Strygos were a father and son related to this David.
It might be stretching then possibilities for Strygos to be synonymous with Ynys Pervedd.
Or I could just be going round in circles,still clutching those initial straws.

Regards
Roger

[despair]

There are links for the David Richard of 1722 will.He leaves a property called Pant y Ffynnon to his beloved wife(Magdalen Jenkin).He also mentions a brother Edward Richard.This I think is the Edward Richard of the 1753 will at  Cwm Ffwrd,who gives his father as Richard Thomas and sister Margaret of Pant y Ffynnon.
The 1722 will mentions other properties and I will see if I can identify people involved.

Regards
Roger

[Viking666]

I have a note of a David Rees of Lledrod, dated 1638 that refers to the usual transfer of properties called Llwyn-y-malis, (now Llwynmalis), and Esker-rygos in our old stamping patch of Merllyd. Going by the very early date, could Esker-rygos be Strygos. There are no other properties in this area at the time excepting Ynys-Perfedd.
 As I'm considerably slower than you in picking up and digesting information, bear with me whilst, as well as I deal with my ponderous searches, I battle with my new Windows 8.1.
                 Regards Peter.

[despair]

Interesting find re Esker-rygos.I'll see if I can find anything further.Give me Windows XP anytime.

Regards
Roger

[despair]

Thinking of obvious similarities to the phrase,I think Esgair y Gors is a good candidate,given as being in Upper Lledrod

http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/CGN/Lledrod/

Regards
Roger

[Viking666]

Yes, I think that we may be correct in our assumption. Many of the Scribes of those days were English and they usually wrote the names of places in their phonetic manner. The house is marked on my map as Esgair-y-gors. (badly written as Esgairygors it could have been seen as Estrygors and later changed to Strygos. There must be some negotiating document extant because the name changed to Strygos Fawr at some time.(Edward Richards, son of James, Ynys Ynyd, 225 acres in Llandyfrydog, Mona, changed to Ynys Fawr when an additional 50 acres were bought from the farm next door.)
   Regards, Peter. (First PC was a Windows 3.2 ... I miss the whirring and clicking sound it made).

[despair]

The other property in the will of David Richard 1722,bequeathed with  Clawdd Kerrig to his sister Margaret and his father Richard Thomas,is (Tyddyn) Llwyn Goffre,which appears synonymous with Llwynygoffre or Swyddffynnon Mill.

Regards
Roger

[despair]

While I can find further references to Llwynygofre etc. it is not clear there is a family relationship to the "Richards" of Bryn Isaf(aka Bryn Issa).There may well be one,but it is yet to be discovered.

Looking at nearby properties at the appropriate time we have,for instance:-
1765
 Letticia Richards of Rhyd Llwyd, parish of Lledrod, co. Cardigan, widow, and Thomas Richards of Y Penbrin, parish of Lledrod, aforesaid gent;. 2. Richard Edwards of Navy Hall, parish of Lledrod aforesaid, gent. Grant for £10 of a seat or pew adjoining the reading desk or pulpit in the parish church of Lledrod and belonging to a tenement called Pant y Camddwr.

and,although dated 1777,the following refers back to 1762

Indenture, being a declaration by Morgan Harry of Fronfelen, p. Llanychaiarne, co. Card., gent., and Letitia Richards of p. Llanygrwyddon, co. Card., widow, that a fine had been levied at the Great Sessions for co. Card. on 14 Aug. 1762 by Elizabeth Richards, widow, the said Letitia Richards, Thomas Richards, gent. and Jane his wife, of two tmt's called Penbryn-issa alias Tythyn-y-bryn-merllyd, and Bryn-merllyd alias Tythyn-bryn-issa, and of a parcel of land called Gorse-glan-teify (60 a.), p. Lledrod, co. Card., to the use (as to the said parcel of land) of the said Morgan Harry in fee, but that no uses had been declared as to the said two tmt's, they therefore declared that the said fine should enure (as to the said two tmt's) to the use of William Davies of Penbrynn, p. Llanvihangel Lledrod, co. Card., gent., in fee simple. It recites that the said Elizabeth Richards, Thomas Richards and Jane his wife had all dec., and that the said two tmt's were the inheritance on the said William Davies. 
               
The Thomas Richards referred to is a "gent" and likely to be owner rather than tenant.Perhaps also the Jane referred to is the one from the 1789 will(?).This Thomas Richards,I think,is of the family referred to previously,where a Thomas Richards is seen in Westminster.There must be a reasonable chance that John and James are of this family,either the sons of a Thomas Richards,or of a son of Thomas Richards(perhaps called John?).

The concern is whether the title to the properties passes to the William Davies referred to(I'm not sure what an inheritance ON William Davies means),and,if so,how it reverts to John Richards-or whether he has some other form of rights,short of ownership.

Regards
Roger

[Viking666]

 I've been hunting down the houses mentioned in the will of David Richard, 1722. (Tythin-y-Clawdd Kerie, and Tythin Llwyn Goffre)
228
1761, March 3. LEASE for one year of the m’s and lands called Tythyn Y Cloddie Cerrig and Llwyn y Gofre, p. Sputty Ystraed Meyrick, both in the occupation of the said Mary Davies, the former property being on the north side of a lane from the great common called Craig yr Hendre to the river Meyrick, and the latter on the south side thereof.
 
  In 1777, as per the will of Edward Richard, Schoolmaster, as well as being the owner of Swyddffynnon Mill, he is also shown as the owner of Bryn Perfedd, Ty-mawr and Pen Gwydion, (both in Swyddffynnon) and Bryn Garw.
220-1
1746, Sept. 28-9
1   Jane Morgan of p. Spytty Ystradmeirick, co. Card., widow
2   Thomas Richard of the village of Ystradmeirick in the said p., yeoman
LEASE AND RELEASE (being a mortgage for £60) of the m. and lands called Bryn Pervedd, lordship of Spytty, p. Spytty Ystradmeirick, within gr. Mevenidd, and belonging of late to the late dissolved monastery of Strata florida, one close of meadow thereunto adjoining, and liberty upon the commons thereunto adjoining and of cutting turfs upon the same, and deed to lead the uses of a fine thereof
Witnesses include Hugh Rice, clerk

Endorsed on No. 221 are:
1750-5
RECEIPTS by Thomas Richard and Edward Richard for interest, and receipt by Jane Morgan for £58 upon further security being a note of hand dated 16 Oct. 1755 and attested by Mr Hugh Rice, clerk

 We are back to the quest for Thomas. This one, working with the owner of Bryn Perfedd, (Edward, Schoolmaster), is shown as a Yeoman of Ystradmeurig. We were suspicious of the Thomas Richard from Llandewi but he was always shown as either of Llandewi or Lledrod. Is he the one mentioned in 1765 as 'Gent', of "Penbrin" (The house above Bryn Issa is called Pen-bryn).
 I must admit that the meshing of the two tribes of Richards doesn't appear to work.
                                     Regards, Peter.