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Re: David Richard/Richards of Strygosfawr, Lledrod.
« Reply #450 on: Monday 23 January 17 21:41 GMT (UK) »
 Just found our Emilia. She's in the 1841 as Amilia Jones of Swydd Smithy together with 3 children. Amilia's DoB is given as 1803-1807 and her children are, Jane (1832), Elizabeth (1835) and Anne (1837). Her Husband, John Jones has DoB as 1799-1803. Amelia was born in  Lledrod.
 You can now see that she could well have been Joseph's, (1794), sister.
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Re: David Richard/Richards of Strygosfawr, Lledrod.
« Reply #451 on: Monday 23 January 17 21:52 GMT (UK) »
You keep referring to the children of Jane(1795) and John(1814).I do not recognise this couple at all.If you have any evidence to support their existence please quote it.
Amelia is untraced other than the marriage to John Jones.She seems to reasonably consistently have her place of birth as Llanyre,Radnorshire in the censuses,born circa 1805.In the MIs for Lledrod,John Jones(born 1842,headmaster etc)her son,has a daughter called Amy,presumably after her.There is a record for an Amy Davies born Llandegley(less than 10 miles from Llanyre),in 1805 but she is illegitimate born to a Margaret Davies.

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Re: David Richard/Richards of Strygosfawr, Lledrod.
« Reply #452 on: Monday 23 January 17 22:43 GMT (UK) »
The penny has just dropped. Except for the link between Amilia and Joseph being brother and sister
the remaining Lewis family et al is not related to me at all. The only person that links this family to the Richards family is an unknown Richards and Davies that we have no details for, who had a son, Joseph in 1794. Joseph was a nephew of Edward because his father was married to Edward's sister.
They lived at Ynysberfedd, owned by George Richards, (and later his brother) simply as tenants.
  I think that the time and effort spent on this bit of the family didn't amount to much, but there we are. No pain no gain, as they say. Lledrod is particularly poorly served having hardly any birth, marriage and death records for the 1700s so that guesswork and hypotheses has to take its place with dire results. This will be the first time that I will be writing, "Unknown Richards" in my direct-line tree to the Rev. John Richards. Shame on me.
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Re: David Richard/Richards of Strygosfawr, Lledrod.
« Reply #453 on: Tuesday 24 January 17 13:26 GMT (UK) »
I think it is also possible that we are interpreting "nephew" in the stricter light of current usage,and it may have had broader application at this time.

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Re: David Richard/Richards of Strygosfawr, Lledrod.
« Reply #454 on: Tuesday 24 January 17 13:50 GMT (UK) »
  I think that  in 1833, when the Rev. Edward Richards had his will drawn up, "Nephew" meant exactly that ... the male child of a sibling. We know that Edward was very wealthy and highly educated; his will, probably drawn up by a top Lawyer and witnessed by two important businessmen, (one of them a Knight), would be accurate and accurately worded.
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Re: David Richard/Richards of Strygosfawr, Lledrod.
« Reply #455 on: Tuesday 24 January 17 20:35 GMT (UK) »
I don't suppose there are any clues in the 1847 will of Mary Richards of Epsom,the Reverend Edward's wife?
I've never had the patience to "decipher" it!

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Re: David Richard/Richards of Strygosfawr, Lledrod.
« Reply #456 on: Tuesday 24 January 17 21:57 GMT (UK) »
  Can you send me the link to Mary's will please. I'll have a go at it and probably ruin my eyesight even further.
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Re: David Richard/Richards of Strygosfawr, Lledrod.
« Reply #457 on: Tuesday 24 January 17 22:16 GMT (UK) »
Sorry,I can't send you a link,it's on A******y.
I'll have a go tomorrow.It's in the same hand as Edward's will,but twice as long!

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Re: David Richard/Richards of Strygosfawr, Lledrod.
« Reply #458 on: Wednesday 25 January 17 08:52 GMT (UK) »
 Looking forwards to the Will. (groan, blink blink). Why is it so long I wonder because by 1847 there was one less son, (death) and only one grandchild. (Adelaide May Chatfield, 1841), the daughter of her eldest child, Mary, (1808-1891). I know that Edward's wife was very wealthy in her own right and the giving away of cash and property is quite a complicated matter. (Not speaking from experience) !
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Richards in Anglesey. Liverpool, Cardiganshire.
Richards in Patagonia and Canada. Owens and Williams in Holyhead. Laird family, Birkenhead. Richards-Bridges family, Epsom.