David Richard/Richards of Strygosfawr, Lledrod.

[despair]

There is a Wernfelen,Pontrrhydfendigaid,Ystrad Meurig postcode SY25 6EL.I'll see what else I can find.

Regards
Roger

[despair]

There is a Thomas Davies,clerk who according to the CCed database is incumbent at Ystrad Meurig and Ysbytty Ystwith(St David's diocese) 1771-1801.There is then a will of 1801 for Thomas Davies,clerk,Pantyfedwen-which is close to Pontrhydfendigaid(and therefore Wern-felen).He has very extensive property interests.

Regards
Roger

[Viking666]

Found Wernfelen --- Directly East of Penbryn but not that far away. The Rev. Davies, (Guardian) goes back about 50 years before these 2 Parsons but I remember that David Richards Snr. of Llandewi had an enormous portfolio of property stretching from the coast to Llandewi and beyond.
   I've done quite a bit of work on the Rev. Edward of Epsom, most of his children are now documented and I've been doing my sums and can't understand where his money came from. We know that the marriage Bond was £12,000 but his will shows an enormous sum of cash at the Bank of England plus the 6 farms in Wales and his Epsom house. The annuities to his 8 surviving children come to over half a million pounds per annum. (Calculated against the salary equivalent today).
 He leaves the extensive house in Epsom to his wife but without cash, her being considered wealthy enough to get along with what she has already.
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[Viking666]

 I see an In denture showing William Davies selling Penbryn to his brother Richard in 1778. The next indent' in this deal says that Richard never came up with the money so that Penbryn reverts back to William.
 Leaving here for Gothenburg to catch the ship to Germany so I'll see you on Friday.
                               regards, Peter

[Viking666]

Back from Germany ... hung-over and whacked. Angela Merkel says, "Hello Roger".
                                                     regards, Peter

[despair]

Try to resume tomorrow then.

Regards
Roger

[Viking666]

  Reading that last quoted Indenture for William and Thomas Davies, they use the term. "fine" in the second indenture. I think that the term can be taken as, "cancelled" and this throws some light on the indenture that shows a fine being levied on Elizabeth Richards, Widow, etc.
Quoting my post from 3 Dec.
[Further careful reading of other docs show that she is a widow in 1762 as per the Indent' that shows the 'fine', along with Elizabeth Richards, widow.]
 The "fine" refers to an original agreement made between the parties in 1762 but is cancelled in the 1770s. I think that the Elizabeth Richards shown in that indent' is the mother  of John and James et al, and that she is shown as a widow by the 1770s but wasn't one in 1762 ... ditto may apply to Leticia, the wife of David of Ffos, also shown as widow.
 This interpretation of the indent' explains why Elizabeth, although shown as a widow in 1762, has another child, James, in 1763. (I have a photo of his grave that confirms his date of birth).
   One simply worded indent' helps to interpret the more complex. I wonder what else we've missed on the way.
                              Regards, Peter.
 

[despair]

Just been printing out some indentures,and I came across a (later)probate reference for Griffith Thomas of Llanbdarn Vawr that refers to his "...son in law,David Richard and his wife Goley..."
The will is 1694 and he leaves them one shilling!

(I am printing the indentures in an attempt to identify the various "Davies" who are involved).

Regards
Roger

[Viking666]

 We've never been able to place David and Goley in the Richards of Lledrod family. Your discovery shows that, like David, (father of John and James etc.) he married a girl from Llanbadarn Fawr. There was another indenture dated 1683 where a David and Maurice Richards were mentioned but no details of any property being involved. The next indent' shows D and G as being married C1693 and being involved in the purchase of Ynysperfedd. Their son David Jnr. is shown in the next one, dated 1721. (Dates are from memory).
 Could you send me the link to the Crosswood Papers again.  I'm on my third PC since this topic was started and each crash has left me without links and other helpful notes. Damn it!
                                Regards, Peter.