David Richard/Richards of Strygosfawr, Lledrod.

[Viking666]

 One thing that the pew purchase document shows is that Leticia, the wife of David of Foss, was a widow at this date so I've revised his death-date from 'before 1769' to 'before 1764'. Further careful reading of other docs show that she is a widow in 1762 as per the Indent. that shows the 'fine', along with Elizabeth Richards, widow.
 A lot seems to have been happening at around this date. Indentures show Thomas purchasing Penbryn and Bryn Issa from Edward Richard, Schoolmaster in 1756. (His son David is still at Strygos). Thomas and his wife move to Penbryn and remain there until 1764.
  We then have a completion of that purchase dated 1764 and, in the same year Thomas sells the property to William Davies and then, in the same year is shown granting a mortgage to Williams wife, Elizabeth Davies, who is now shown as 'widow'.  David and Elizabeth Richards, plus the 4 children, must  have moved to Bryn Issa when he gave up Strygos in 1770.
 Working on the pregnant marriage syndrome, Jane marries Owen, the son of the above William and Elizabeth Davies in 1794 when  she had her first child. (At this date, Owen was 60 years old - Jane was 37...they had one more child during 1795).
 When  Elizabeth Davies dies, her next of kin is her son Owen. When Owen dies in 1812 his wife Jane inherits Penbryn and Bryn Issa and, when she dies in 1822, the Rev. John Richards is  left Bryn Issa. This property is shown in his will of 1832.
 Narrowing the dates of death in this manner produces some results but takes time and a lot of detective work but it keeps us on our toes and helps to clarify the overall picture of this family.
 I remember an indent' from the days of David and Goley, where part of the purchase agreement is that the path to Pontargamddwr remains open.
                                                                  Regards from Peter.
 

[Viking666]

Ref line 5 and 6 of my last post.
 Elizabeth Davies is shown as widow in a  1778 Indenture that passes the property to herself. This may be the death date for her husband, William.
                                                                       Apologies. Peter

[despair]

I don't remember making reference to this piece of data before,apologies if I have.
In the Lledrod Monumental Inscriptions,nan the end of the sequence relating to Tynllan,(in particular the entry for David Richards(1747-1810) comes:-

William Williams,late of Esgair Gors,died 1808,aged 43.There is a record for William Williams,died 1808,:Lledrod aged 48.Perhaps it is a misread of a headstone.
Also Jane,wife  of William Williams,died 1838,in her 69th year.
Then,David Willliams Ty'n-y-llan,died 1856 in his 43rd year.

I don't know why,but I feel William Williams name may be a variant on a patronymic.
Does this also imply a family connection between Tynllan and Strygos(Esgair Gors?)

Regards
Roger

[despair]

Just thought it might be worth a mention that a Tyddyn Pantcamddwr is mentioned,though I'm not quite sure in relation to whom, in the Thomas Davies 1701 will(the same one that gives Richard Davies as subtenant of Tyddyn Eskerygos).

Regards
Roger

[Viking666]

I've been having a read of some pre-Reformation stuff that states that the whole area to the south of Lledrod was known as Penbryn. In a topographical map it shows a line of three hills with Bryn Issa, Penbryn and Ynysberfedd on top of each one. I remember a document that gave Bryn Issa as being over 700 acres.
  The Indenture that shows David giving up Strygosfawr was dated 1769, (with a year to completion), so the Richards family had nothing to do with the farm after  1770.
  I have a note of that 1701 will ... it shows that Thomas Davies left six farms in the area and we mustn't forget Edward Richard, Schoolmaster leaving a dozen or more properties to the church in 1777.
 The only link that I can propose with the Williams family is that they took over Strygos, (sometime after David vacated and returned the deeds to James Lloyd of Mabws). In such a small village William Williams would have known David Jnr. of Ffos and his wife Elizabeth ...(she died in 1830), when she lived at Tynllan.
 The Ll.GC Wills section doesn't seem to work ... they say that It's in Beta ... I can still get indents though.
 At various  times, Bryn Issa has been called Tyddyn Bryn Issa. It just shows that the house was small.
                         Regards from Peter-

[despair]

How are you trying to access wills?

Regards
Roger

[despair]

This shortcut should get you to all wills.Then put in your search term in quotation marks,with more than one search term separated by +. e.g "Thomas Davies" + "Lledrod" + "1701"

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01izh/

Regards
Roger

[Viking666]

I can now access the Wills although I haven't tried my usual trick of searching for any Richards Wills in a defined area, during a defined timeline. Quick glimpse of the 1701 Will shows that Thomas Davies owned property in Llandewi-Brefi as well as Lledrod and that Strygos was left to his 'nephew and Godson'.
                                       regards, Peter.

[Viking666]

 From page 20 of this topic.

[Perhaps we can link William Davies, the next owner of Bryn Issaf to the Rev. Thomas Davies and Daniel, his brother, or to the mystery Thomas Davies of Wernvelen.]

  The idea that there could be a link between the Davies family of Lledrod and the Davies of Lladewibrefi needs another poke with a sharp stick. It could well lead to another link with the Richards family but through David and Goley who were contemporaries of Morgan Richards' father, another David.
  I'm off to Germany tomorrow for Winter Solstice shopping. Away for a couple of days.
                     regards,  Peter.