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Re: David Richard/Richards of Strygosfawr, Lledrod.
« Reply #207 on: Thursday 23 October 14 12:44 BST (UK) »
That record is why I referred to a discrepancy re his birth date.At his death in 1833,he is given as 74 years old- a birth date of approx. 1759.This is still within the compass of a possible family including Jane(1755),John(1760) and James(1763).
Concentrating on Ynys y Berfedd alone,we have David Richard,his wife Goley,and son and heir Richard David referred to there in indentures 1719-1721.Perhaps this Richard David had a son David Richard(s),who is the father of the family in question.Finding birth/death dates/wills to flesh this out is proving problematic.

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Re: David Richard/Richards of Strygosfawr, Lledrod.
« Reply #208 on: Thursday 23 October 14 12:58 BST (UK) »
That Indent. for David and Goley is re-issued the following day with the Richard David corrected to David Richard.
 With so many reverend gents involved I hadn't noticed the Devine Directive in my title for this topic !
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Re: David Richard/Richards of Strygosfawr, Lledrod.
« Reply #209 on: Thursday 23 October 14 14:07 BST (UK) »
I had been considering David Richards of Strygos as a candidate for the father.He is "...of Lledrod,
gent.."If he is the David Richards married to Letitia Parry in 1737,it might just be feasible.Say David is born 1700-1710,Letitia 1715-1720,a family up to 1763(birth of James)is possible.Further,it is likely that David died between 1769(when he is named in an indenture)and 1777 when Letitia is described as widow.This would also probably imply a lot of other siblings between 1737 and 1755(when Jane is born)-perhaps a Thomas!
Very speculative of course.

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Re: David Richard/Richards of Strygosfawr, Lledrod.
« Reply #210 on: Thursday 23 October 14 15:37 BST (UK) »
Yes, I've been looking at the same possibility. I can't understand though the connection between The Rev. Edward having so much property in Caron, Anglesey and Lledrod. I notice that they are all stated as 'Freehold' although with so much money around him, some may have been investment assets.
When a David Richards crops up in our research, one side of my brain shuts down; if you add an additional Vicar then the whole thing grinds to a stop.
 We never really had a close look at the Strygos David, (probably due to the lack of a will for him) and now we're desperate for some positive link to Edward, John and James, and now, Jane.
  In the last note we have for bryn Issaf we have a Thomas Richards and his wife, Jane. The Thomas may be the brother of David, (due to his age), named after their father, Thomas, and has nothing to do with our main family search. We know something of David and he is the likeliest culprit. As you said, he was still young enough to father those children but he may have had a son called David... he would be a more interesting subject. What make me uneasy about David and Letitia being the parents is the huge gap between their marriage in 1737 and the birth of their children.
92% of Richards marriages produce a child in the first year ... none have waited 20 years.
  Is there another David out there?
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Re: David Richard/Richards of Strygosfawr, Lledrod.
« Reply #211 on: Thursday 23 October 14 15:54 BST (UK) »
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Re: David Richard/Richards of Strygosfawr, Lledrod.
« Reply #212 on: Friday 24 October 14 14:13 BST (UK) »
Just a snippet.
 James had a son John, (named after his brother), and Edward, (named after the other brother?) and James Jnr. The son, Edward, named his 2 first sons, James and John. He too has a son Edward.
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Re: David Richard/Richards of Strygosfawr, Lledrod.
« Reply #213 on: Friday 24 October 14 14:21 BST (UK) »
I would imagine that naming after brothers and sisters might be secondary to naming after parents.Whether there is any clue in that to the name of David's wife might be worth a look.
Just out of curiosity are there any girls named Jane(might need at least three daughters if first two are named after parents).

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Re: David Richard/Richards of Strygosfawr, Lledrod.
« Reply #214 on: Friday 24 October 14 16:24 BST (UK) »
Perhaps,also,there is a connection through the Thomas Davies,Lledrod of the 1701 will.Although I don't think he nominates direct family of his own,he does specify Tythyn Strygos,with Richard David as his under tenant and another property mentioned is Ffos Helyg.There is a 1795 indenture for Richard Davies at this address,and he appears to be related to the William Davies of interest.Perhaps Owen Davies and Jane Richards fit in to this family.

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Re: David Richard/Richards of Strygosfawr, Lledrod.
« Reply #215 on: Friday 24 October 14 16:34 BST (UK) »
The Rev. John had a daughter Jane and one of James' daughters had another. I've been looking to see what was happening at the time of the Rev. Edward's will in 1833.
James' son Edward moves from a small farm in Llangefni to Ynys Ynyd, a 250 acre farm in Llandyfrydog.
The Rev. John's son Michael moves from the family home at Plas Llanfair to Parciau Home Farm, Llaneugrad, (600 acres).
 The Rev. John had just died, leaving assets of £68.
 Whether these two facts had anything to do with the death of the Rev. Edward would be pure speculation but worth wondering about.
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Richards in Anglesey. Liverpool, Cardiganshire.
Richards in Patagonia and Canada. Owens and Williams in Holyhead. Laird family, Birkenhead. Richards-Bridges family, Epsom.