The Duffy's.

[Devilish]

Would be strange, although another son "peter" being found could be useful.

I did find a pallo's index and marriage record for a Thomas & Theresa Duffy in 1818 - in Marylebone area again, but offers no further clues whether "Thomas Duffy actually existed and where he came from :p

[heywood]

He must have existed if he is on the marriage register.  that looks very promising.
Unfortunately, though no other information as it is so early.

[heywood]

I think this is the marriage of Thomas Duffey jnr. Unfortunately, there is no image to see what information he gave re his father. However, the civil marriage certificate would show this.
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/N6J3-VZ1

[heywood]

This looks like Susan's marriage

Christ Church St Marylebone  1st January 1856

Susannah Duffey  and Patrick Doherty  father Thomas Duffy Dyer (I think it says that)

1861 has Susanna Doharty 26 yrs born Liverpool  and husband Patrick living in St Marylebone.

It does look as though Thomas Duffey/Duffy did exist but was not the father of Theresa.

I know you have a James Hoy but I can't see any reference to him other than in the published trees. Where is he mentioned please?

[Devilish]

Ok I don't know if by chance I struck a breakthrough on Thomas Duffy - just a guess but I don't know (head's in a spin) whether it all connects.

I found a death record on 29th July 1836 (burial) for a Thomas Duffy in St.Patrick, Lancashire. Not sure if it's related, as any census entries post this (1841) Theresa Duffy doesn't have any Husband listed.

So, I thought, about 40 years back for a birth record, perhaps in a similar area, (and had to include Ireland, of course)

And stumbled on a record (book entry) of a baptism on 15th May 1797 at St.Mary's, Lancashire. With Edward & Elizabeth Duffy as parents. There's another listing in Dunshaughlin in Meath, but i'm not sure whether, either, or any is correct at this stage.

James Hoy - he is listed on the christening record as the father. (I did shoebox it on my Ancestry account.)

[heywood]

Thanks. I know you had said there was no father on the birth cert. and then I got mixed up with the two Theresas and missed that it was the baptism record. I have seen it now.

When you say Lancashire, do you mean Liverpool? The difficulty is that Duffy is a common name.
My grandmother was a Duffy!

Thomas jnr and Sarah both use Duffey at times also.

[Blue70]

St Mary's RC church was in Edmund Street in Liverpool at that time and St Patrick's RC church is still there in Toxteth. Lots of Liverpool Irish people baptised at these churches.


Blue

[heywood]

Thanks Blue. I just wanted to make sure.

However, Thomas and Theresa married in London    The burial though could be a possibility as some children were born in Liverpool.

[Blue70]

Baptisms:-

Thomas Duffy, born: 30 Jul 1825, baptised: 22 Aug 1825, Church: St Mary RC Liverpool, Father: Thomas Duffy, Mother: Teresa Duffy

Susan Duffy, born: 16 Jul 1832, baptised: 4 Aug 1832, Church: St Peter RC Liverpool, Father: Thomas Duffy, Mother: Teresa Duffy

Peter Duffy, born: 8 Oct 1834, baptised: 12 Oct 1834, Church: St Peter RC Liverpool, Father: Thomas Duffy, Mother: Teresa Duffy, Godparents: Walter & Catherine Talbot


Burials:-

Peter Duffy, age: 1 6/12, buried: 29 Feb 1836, burial place: St Patrick RC Liverpool
 
Thomas Duffy, age: 40, buried: 29 Jul 1836, burial place: St Patrick RC Liverpool


Possible Dublin baptism for Thomas Duffy:-

http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/f885740364653


Possible Dublin baptism for Teresa Reilly:-

http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/4439340151216



Blue