The Duffy's.

[heywood]

We have the Liverpool baptisms and the burial is the one that Devilish found which sounds very good.

The Dublin baptism for Theresa sounds very promising doesn't it with the father's name of Peter.

I wouldn't be as sure re Thomas but could very well be.

Just had a thought that daughter Mary is shown as born Ireland in 1841

[Blue70]

The family must have gone back to Ireland after the birth of Thomas. Perhaps the mother's maiden name was taken by the daughter because she was born illegitimate or the mother used both surnames. The baptism shows the father as James Hoy but he mustn't have remained with the mother.


Blue

[heywood]

Yes, that is probably the case re the surname.

As Devilish said, the younger Theresa's birth certificate gives no father but her baptism shows James Hoy.

You would imagine that if Theresa (mother) was going to invent a father for the baptism, she would just give Thomas Duffy's name. As James Hoy is given - perhaps he is the father and did exist but didn't stay.

If Devilish has  the right marriage also, you would think that there were other children before Thomas.

[Blue70]

He might have been married and unable to be with her or an Irish labourer who returned to Ireland or went overseas.


Blue

[Blue70]

If Devilish has  the right marriage also, you would think that there were other children before Thomas.

Perhaps Thomas Duffy was going where the work was and they didn't spend much time together in their early married years if they did marry in 1818.


Blue

[heywood]

Perhaps. I had wondered about an army life also. His son has him as a Dyer I think on his marriage certificate.

[Blue70]

I don't know about RC records for London to check baptisms. If there were any children born in London before 1825 they either died or left home before the 1841 Census.


Blue

[Blue70]

Do we have this from the Workhouse Admission Register?

Thursday July 11 1839

Duffey

Theresa, 36
Thomas, 13
Mary, 11
Susan, 7
Theresa, "13 Born"

W House

"Widow far advanced in pregnancy"


Blue

[heywood]

I don't know what Devilish has but that is really good and adds to the research. 
I think the birth certificate has Theresa as a single woman but that is interesting re the 'widow'.