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One word from a Sasine 1751
« on: Thursday 31 July 14 12:01 BST (UK) »
Hi everybody
What might his children want to do? ( I won’t say what I think it might be..)

From a Sasine of 1751.
Sorry about the definition – the original text is very very tiny.
These were no where near as bad as I thought they’d be! At least they’re not in old Scots!

“ whole provisions above specified and in regard the said Michael Cochrane his children a former marriage it is hereby provided and declared that in case these children ? ? to his half of the lands of Meadowfoot ….”

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Lane, Burgess: Cheshire. Finney, Rogers, Gilman:Derbys
Cochran, Nicol, Paton, Bruce:Scotland. Bertolle:London
Bainbridge, Christman, Jeffs: Staffs

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Re: One word from a Sasine 1751
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 31 July 14 12:11 BST (UK) »
succeed

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Re: One word from a Sasine 1751
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 31 July 14 22:53 BST (UK) »
That's what I thought the second bit might be Alexander. But there seems to be a bit of a word in front of it after 'children'- do you think it might be 'do succeed'?
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Lane, Burgess: Cheshire. Finney, Rogers, Gilman:Derbys
Cochran, Nicol, Paton, Bruce:Scotland. Bertolle:London
Bainbridge, Christman, Jeffs: Staffs

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Re: One word from a Sasine 1751
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 31 July 14 23:00 BST (UK) »
I thought it might be presumed?
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Re: One word from a Sasine 1751
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 31 July 14 23:21 BST (UK) »
Hello -

It does look like 'presumed'.

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Re: One word from a Sasine 1751
« Reply #5 on: Friday 01 August 14 04:18 BST (UK) »
Hi Goldie,

Yes - spelt Doe.

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Re: One word from a Sasine 1751
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 03 August 14 00:09 BST (UK) »
That's what I thought Horselydown. Thanks.
Thanks everybody for their input - sorry GR2 - I think I called you Alexander! I know you're both fantastic at deciphering.
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Lane, Burgess: Cheshire. Finney, Rogers, Gilman:Derbys
Cochran, Nicol, Paton, Bruce:Scotland. Bertolle:London
Bainbridge, Christman, Jeffs: Staffs

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Re: One word from a Sasine 1751
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 03 August 14 17:34 BST (UK) »
Sorry Goldie... I disagree... as it relates to children of a former marriage.....I think it's "presumed"
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Re: One word from a Sasine 1751
« Reply #8 on: Monday 04 August 14 18:49 BST (UK) »
"Doe Succeed" - this would mean that there is a capital D.  Looking at the other words in the excerpt there seems to be a consistent use of capital letters only to begin key words which would not include "Doe".  There is a similarity to the formation of the first letter of "Declared" earlier in the line.  Grammatically, "do succeed" would make sense.

"Presumed" - the word would be important enough to have an initial capital letter.  It would be helpful to compare the formation of a capital letter P if there is one elsewhere in the document.  If the word is "presumed" there would be a grammatical inaccuracy - would this be consistent with the rest of the document?
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