Author Topic: Minnie Wilson and MIke Brown married 26 Feb 1913, Vancouver, Brtish Columbia  (Read 12040 times)

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Re: Minnie Wilson and MIke Brown married 26 Feb 1913, Vancouver, Brtish Columbia
« Reply #45 on: Wednesday 13 August 14 12:13 BST (UK) »
Wansboro Park, beside Shannon, Athlone

The Patritia Reilly sponsor Polarbear found could be my greatgreatgreatgrandfather.  Patrick Reilly`s daughter Ann Reilly married to Patrick Harney lived at Wansboro`s lot, Coosan in 1848. 
Ann Wansboro was a sponsor to one of my granduncles in 1890.

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Re: Minnie Wilson and MIke Brown married 26 Feb 1913, Vancouver, Brtish Columbia
« Reply #46 on: Thursday 14 August 14 13:53 BST (UK) »
G’day all and thanks once more for input from JJ, PolarBear and Barleyfields – lovely image of Wansboro Park, beside Shannon, Athlone. 
JJ: I did add all the info sent to me from St Mary’s church, Athlone.  No sponsors were included –the info added to the previous post was a copy of the correspondence I received.
I have called my cousins again and asked if they can add any further information about the family and they could only repeat all the stories that I have added previously. They said  that they thought Mike Brown had 2 younger sisters and a younger brother who’s name may have been William.  They think one of the sisters was Mary Margaret and the other was known as Aggie (Agnes Helen or Helen Agnes maybe) They say these names because their mother told them she was named after one of Mike Browns sisters.  My cousins were also told that Mike and Minnie’s second daughter Agnes Helen Brown was named after another of Mike Browns sisters.
I asked again about the letters and photos from Mike Browns family and they again told me that most things were lost when the family house was flooded in the early 1950’s.
It seems Minnie never met Mike Browns family and it is unclear if she ever corresponded with them.  I did, however, find out that Minnie did live with my cousins and their parent at the time the home was flooded and that could explain why so much information was lost. Minnie and Mike Brown had been living with one of their other daughter at the time of Mike’s death.
My cousins are not happy with the news that St Andrew’s Vancouver is a Presbyterian Church….they had always thought Mike and Minnie were married in a Catholic Church. However they have accepted that sufficient evidence has been found  to support the fact that Rev Angus C Cameron MA was indeed a minister at St. Andrew’s Presbyterian Church, Vancouver in 1913 when they were married there.
And another thought I had was this will also partially explain somewhat why the Scotsman Ralph  Swanston was one of the witnesses to their marriage – they may have went to the same men’s bible group or met at the church.
In the 1900 census JJ sent link to William Brown, the lumbar merchant, says he was born in New York and his parents were from Ireland.  Being born in NY was supported in the Bio on Walter Brown but not that he came from Ireland.  And as already pointed out these Browns were Presbyterian.   Walter E Brown also achieved a great status in his lifetime and I would also imagine that would have been a story to pass down in the family too but it was not.  Have sent my cousins the link to Walter E Brown bio and will have to wait for their comments.  Maybe it will jog a memory?? That is if Walter E Brown is part of the Mike Brown tree.
I am still wondering about the Michael Brown on the 1900 and 1910 census in Whiting, Jackson and all the bios not quite lining up about the Browns….what a shame there was no mention of JP Brown in Atchison in these stories. However the 1910 census does say this Michael Brown migrated in 1839 – he would have been 9 years old so who did Michael Brown go to Nth America with?
Over the next few days I will look again at all the evidence and see if anything lines up.  Will re-read all the bio’s and look anything else that may shed some light on Mike Brown. 
Other things are urgently demanding most my time – but living family must come first.
Cheerio for now  G

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Re: Minnie Wilson and MIke Brown married 26 Feb 1913, Vancouver, Brtish Columbia
« Reply #47 on: Thursday 14 August 14 22:15 BST (UK) »
It does appear that barleyfield and polarbear have access to baptism sponsors as they have named several, so if you do find they are useful, I am sure they can round up more info if you ask for it...once there is proof these are yours

I am not sure why you are saying that Michael was born a Presbyterian... also. he must have followed a religion in Australia??  People often married in whatever church was handy...and especially if Minnie was Presby, the ladies often were able to choose the church, sometimes depended who was most staunch in following his or her own religion...

I have, though, been going crazy trying to find these Michael Brown on a U.S. census.
Hope all is well with your family.  :)
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Re: Minnie Wilson and MIke Brown married 26 Feb 1913, Vancouver, Brtish Columbia
« Reply #48 on: Monday 25 August 14 16:18 BST (UK) »
Hello Gerri am adding the link to your two other posts....please add them yourself next time. Not sure you should have ventured into Ireland yet, as the connection has not been made.
Westmeath post http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=695260.msg5389196#msg5389196
United States post http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=695256.msg5388265#msg5388265
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Re: Minnie Wilson and MIke Brown married 26 Feb 1913, Vancouver, Brtish Columbia
« Reply #49 on: Friday 05 September 14 07:20 BST (UK) »
Good afternoon JJ, Polarbear, Barleyfield and all
Have been waiting for my cousin to get back to me with more information on Mike Brown.  I now have copies of Mike and Minnie's 2 oldest daughters birth certificates.  They were both born in Queenstown, Tasmania and both certificates give Mike Brown's place of birth as Kansas City USA (that is exactly what it says - no state just city and country) and both certificates calculate his year of birth to be about 1875.  His daughters were born in Tasmania in 1914 and 1916. 
It is still not known when the family left Tasmania but the are living in a suburb of Sydney, New South Wales in 1924 when their 3rd daughter was born.
Regarding the family story that the Brown's were Irish Catholic.  As we have seen Mike Brown and Minnie Wilson religion is recorded as Presbyterian on their marriage certificate and St Andrew's Vancouver is a Presbyterian church. Minnie Wilson was apparently not a church goer. 
Anyway today I read a very interesting article on change of religion by Australian genealogist and author Carol Baxter and this is the link to her newsletter:
 http://www.carolbaxter.com/newsletters/2014/History-Detective-2014-8-Sep.pdf
It is an interesting and thought provoking article.
Hope this post finds everyone well and enjoying life.  Cheerio for now  Gerri Dalton