Cramptons in York 1891

[val54]

On 1881 census James Crampton age 40 and wife Elizabeth age41 are living with their 8 children in Windsor St, St Mary Bishopshill Junior, Micklegate. I think there was another daughter born after 1880. Can anyone check please?

James was at 15, Gray Street in 1885.
Was he still in York in 1891? Do we know where?

Any help would be appreciated.
   V.

[willow2670]

Hi V
1891 ref: RG12/3889 Folio 96

Crampton, James Head 50 b Yorkshire   Locomotive engine fitter
Crampton, Elizabeth Wife 51 b Newport Pagnell, Buckinghamshire
Crampton, Thomas Son 24 Unm b Stantonbury, Buckinghamshire    Butcher
Crampton, Harriet Dau 15 b Yorkshire
Crampton, Eliza Dau 12 b Yorkshire
Crampton, Alice Dau 11 b Yorkshire
Crampton, Christina Dau 9 b Yorkshire

5 Russell St, St Mary Bishopshill Senior,  Yorkshire

Regards Sue
 

[val54]

    Thank you very much Sue.

   V.

I know James was deceased by 1905 so he died between 1891 and 1905.
Would Elizabeth be with any of  the children on 1901 census?

[willow2670]

She sure is.........
1901 ref: RG13/4442 Folio 111

Elizabeth Crampton Head 60 Wid b Newport Pagnell, Buckinghamshire   Living on own means
Christina Crampton Dau 17 b York, Yorkshire    Dressmaker
Henry Patterson Lodger 64 Widr b York, Yorkshire                   Railway ?
5 Russell St,  York,  Yorkshire   
 
Sue

On    http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/        there is a death for James Crampton age 60
Year 1900 Qtr Dec Dist York Vol 9d pg 17
Could be Elizabeths husband

[val54]

Message for Sue

Too tired to look any more last night! Found your info this morning. Thank you so much.

Yes that's my James - I already have his birth certificate for 1840 so 60 in 1900 fits then. (early death - must have been hard work fitting all those railway engines).

Oh isn't it nice when the story fits! When they stay in one place too it helps!

   V.    

[TZ]

my Grandfather lived in manchester but his family was from yorkshire?

Thomas Edward Crampton b. 1898

Father Thomas Rophie Crampton, Journeyman Buthcherm. 1893 28 years old, salford

Mother Annie Maria Dawson 22 years old, salford

His Father James Crampton Engine Fitter

Her Father John Edward Dawson Cab Propieter
any info.

Tom Zane

[val54]

Hi Tom,
Not quite sure what you're asking, but my James Crampton (engine fitter) was born in 1840 and his son Thomas was born in 1868 by which time they had moved to Bucks.
I don't have a Thomas Edward Crampton born in 1898 on my tree.
My Thomas was 23 in 1891 and working as a butcher in York and unmarried.
Any help?
Val.

[TZ]

Do you think we are talking about the same people. my grandad people came from yorkshire possible york

I have my Grand dad's birth cert.
Thomas Edward was b. 5/18/1891
Father Thomas Rophie Journeyman Butcher
Mom Annie Maria Dawson

Tom Rophie marriage cert
m.12/27/1893
Tom 23 years old
Annie 22 years old

[val54]

Don't think we have any connection Tom - your dates don't fit with mine.
V.