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Re: Percy Platt - Illegitimate/Adopted Bolton 1898
« Reply #63 on: Sunday 20 July 14 12:55 BST (UK) »
More confusion - sorry I am noting all these and after all there may be no connection. ::)

I have sorted out one Hughes puzzle thanks to a tree.

1861 has a Mary Hughes visiting john and Ann Lloyd and I thought she was Atherton. There is also a nephew David Robert Hughes.

She was in fact Ann Hughes married to 1) Timothy Pendlebury and 2) John Lloyd. Her father was David Hughes, farmer.
I had previously seen that young David R Hughes was son of Robert and Ellen.
Their marriage shows father as David, farmer.

Now - is Mary Hughes visitor, our Mary? Or is she another Mary H?

As ever, I hope I am not complicating matters too much and none of this is finding Margaret Platt!
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Re: Percy Platt - Illegitimate/Adopted Bolton 1898
« Reply #64 on: Sunday 20 July 14 13:17 BST (UK) »
Quote from: heywood on Sunday 20 July 14 12:55 BST (UK)
More confusion - sorry I am noting all these and after all there may be no connection. ::)

I have sorted out one Hughes puzzle thanks to a tree.

1861 has a Mary Hughes visiting john and Ann Lloyd and I thought she was Atherton. There is also a nephew David Robert Hughes.

She was in fact Ann Hughes married to 1) Timothy Pendlebury and 2) John Lloyd. Her father was David Hughes, farmer.
I had previously seen that young David R Hughes was son of Robert and Ellen.
Their marriage shows father as David, farmer.

Now - is Mary Hughes visitor, our Mary? Or is she another Mary H?

As ever, I hope I am not complicating matters too much and none of this is finding Margaret Platt!

Mary and Margaret are monkeys are they not ... the pair of them have had me running round in similar circles for 2 years.

I do believe that the key to finding my Margaret Platt is to try and find her link to Mary .. I strongly believe there must be one and that Mary ages with Margaret's  mother (or maybe Hughes is Percy s fathers family)

When you said A Mary Hughes is visiting,in 1861, There is an Ann Atherton in 1851!  Ann and Elizabeth Atherton and Mary Hughes are all born in Flintshire.Is Ann Atherton another Ann or the one you mentioned above?

Bet you are sorry you even looked at this now  ::)


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Re: Percy Platt - Illegitimate/Adopted Bolton 1898
« Reply #65 on: Sunday 20 July 14 13:23 BST (UK) »
On the subject  of Flintshire, did we ever rule out the Maragaret Platt I mentioned in reply 22? Her Dad John was from Flintshire. We stopped looking at her when Barton dropped out of the equation, but she had the right type of occupation and may be worth a closer look.
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Re: Percy Platt - Illegitimate/Adopted Bolton 1898
« Reply #66 on: Sunday 20 July 14 13:26 BST (UK) »
Quote from: Craclyn on Sunday 20 July 14 13:23 BST (UK)
On the subject  of Flintshire, did we ever rule out the Maragaret Platt I mentioned in reply 22? Her Dad John was from Flintshire. We stopped looking at her when Barton dropped out of the equation, but she had the right type of occupation and may be worth a closer look.

Do you know, I lost her in my Barton madness ... thank you so much for reminding me. I shall investigate her next  ;D

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Re: Percy Platt - Illegitimate/Adopted Bolton 1898
« Reply #67 on: Sunday 20 July 14 14:30 BST (UK) »
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That Margaret may be the one who married Richard Openshaw in 1894 in marriage indexes and 1901, 1911

I think this is Magaret Platt from Barton  :-\

Waterloo, at the moment we'll put Ann Atherton aside.

Now looks like Ann Hughes married, as a widow to John Lloyd. A Mary Hughes was a visitor to them. I'll go back and look!
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Re: Percy Platt - Illegitimate/Adopted Bolton 1898
« Reply #68 on: Sunday 20 July 14 21:50 BST (UK) »
I have just had a really odd thought.

I always assumed from the Percy s birth certificate that Margaret was an unmarried young woman ... could she have been married / widowed ?

Well I suppose she could .. just an angle I never even considered.

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Re: Percy Platt - Illegitimate/Adopted Bolton 1898
« Reply #69 on: Sunday 20 July 14 22:14 BST (UK) »
 A possibility, but given the era, be aware that if she was a Mrs. Platt that she would probably have been tempted to put Mr. Platt on the birth cert as the father even if he was long gone. Just had an example of that in my family where the biological Dad's surname was used as the middle name and the husband who had been dead for 3 years was registered as the father.
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Re: Percy Platt - Illegitimate/Adopted Bolton 1898
« Reply #70 on: Sunday 20 July 14 22:17 BST (UK) »
agree with Craclyn also it would show Platt formerly  ....  (or similar)
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Re: Percy Platt - Illegitimate/Adopted Bolton 1898
« Reply #71 on: Sunday 20 July 14 22:34 BST (UK) »
Hi

Just a thought, just reading Craclyn's post about the use of a fathers surname as a middle name.

I know he was registered as Thomas Percy, but what if Thomas could have been a 'nod' towards the father?

In the last census Percy appears on, there are two other boarders,  Frederick THOMAS bn 1902 and John THOMAS bn 1905 ( FreeBMD birth reg for John give him a middle name PERCY) . Both born Kendal, Westmorland.

Just a thought.

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