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Re: Percy Platt - Illegitimate/Adopted Bolton 1898
« Reply #18 on: Saturday 19 July 14 11:58 BST (UK) »
As far as I can see the only 'definite' piece of information re. his mother is that on his birth certificate her name is Margaret Ann Platt.  And with no father listed, and with no other surname mentioned, she was single.

At this stage I think you have put too many 'guesstimates' together which don't appear to add up.

Can you tell us the exact wording on the birth certificate - you refer to Barton Bolton (?) which doesn't seem to be a valid place.

Sorry to sound negative but it just seems at this stage that her name is the only definite and her age not known.

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Re: Percy Platt - Illegitimate/Adopted Bolton 1898
« Reply #19 on: Saturday 19 July 14 12:09 BST (UK) »

I think Margaret is the daughter of Elizabeth Atherton and William Platt. All the children in the censuses can be see on Lancashire BMD births.

Hmmm. I was about to say born Eccles of Joseph & Elizabeth A.  In Barton district in 1881

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XQFM-711

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I'm going off the Bolton/Wales connection which is probably entirely supposition by me   ::)
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Re: Percy Platt - Illegitimate/Adopted Bolton 1898
« Reply #20 on: Saturday 19 July 14 12:13 BST (UK) »
As far as I can see the only 'definite' piece of information re. his mother is that on his birth certificate her name is Margaret Ann Platt.  And with no father listed, and with no other surname mentioned, she was single.

At this stage I think you have put too many 'guesstimates' together which don't appear to add up.

Can you tell us the exact wording on the birth certificate - you refer to Barton Bolton (?) which doesn't seem to be a valid place.


Sorry to sound negative but it just seems at this stage that her name is the only definite and her age not known.

Annette

Hi Annette

No worries, I think my typing and mind are running at different speeds.

Margaret is listed as being from Barton ( may even read Bardon as I look again) which is how I made the link with Margaret Ann Platt on the 1880 BMD.

I always associated her with Bolton (and assumed the Bolton bit .... )

Interestingly I grew up near Barton in Lancashire but mum never mentioned any connection ... however she may not have known.

Thanks for your patience

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Re: Percy Platt - Illegitimate/Adopted Bolton 1898
« Reply #21 on: Saturday 19 July 14 12:21 BST (UK) »
 Margaret Ann Platt possibly married Richard Wright in Q1 1898  :-\
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Re: Percy Platt - Illegitimate/Adopted Bolton 1898
« Reply #22 on: Saturday 19 July 14 12:25 BST (UK) »
If you ignore the suggested birth date, then another Margaret to consider is Margarett Platt living at Barton upon Irwell in the 1881 census. She is age 10 at the time so born about 1871. Parents John (from Flintshire, Wales) and Hannah. Margaret has birth place Pendleton, but may have remembered Barton as her earliest abode and given it as place of birth in subsequent documentation.
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Re: Percy Platt - Illegitimate/Adopted Bolton 1898
« Reply #23 on: Saturday 19 July 14 12:29 BST (UK) »
Presumably the only source for Barton is as Margaret's abode when she is informant of her son's birth in 1898 ???
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Re: Percy Platt - Illegitimate/Adopted Bolton 1898
« Reply #24 on: Saturday 19 July 14 12:31 BST (UK) »
Margaret Ann Platt possibly married Richard Wright in Q1 1898  :-\

Not liking that theory as Grandad was born in September 1898 ...   :(

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Re: Percy Platt - Illegitimate/Adopted Bolton 1898
« Reply #25 on: Saturday 19 July 14 12:34 BST (UK) »
Presumably the only source for Barton is as Margaret's abode when she is informant of her son's birth in 1898 ???

That is given as her place of Birth,  she was living at 44 Silverwell Place in Bolton where Percy was born ... the home of the mysterious Mary Hughes but was gone by 1901.


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Re: Percy Platt - Illegitimate/Adopted Bolton 1898
« Reply #26 on: Saturday 19 July 14 12:35 BST (UK) »
If you ignore the suggested birth date, then another Margaret to consider is Margarett Platt living at Barton upon Irwell in the 1881 census. She is age 10 at the time so born about 1871. Parents John (from Flintshire, Wales) and Hannah. Margaret has birth place Pendleton, but may have remembered Barton as her earliest abode and given it as place of birth in subsequent documentation.

Well the Flintshire connection may work as Mary Hughes was from Mold, Flintshire.

Could she be connected to John maybe?