Percy Platt - Illegitimate/Adopted Bolton 1898

[Waterloo24]

You say that his mother was visited in a lunatic asylum in the 1950s, it's possible she was admitted before 1901 (hence why Percy isn't with his mother) - could also link with the illigimate nature as some women were admitted to asylums for having children out of wedlock

In Lancaster Lunatic Asylum (which has other people from Bolton area) there is a M A P - single female (aged 40 - which may be the down point, how sure are you of her date of birth), unknown place of birth a cotton operator

I did consider that but as there were 2 brothers ( I have always assumed younger .. but nothing is simple or 100% here) I thought Margaret s admission would have been later - at least after they were born.

I mentioned earlier that I had always imagined a young unmarried mother but I am also now considering that may not necessarily be the case. If she was 40 in 1901 she would have been a very old lady when mum visited but it is certainly not impossible

Thanks 

[Waterloo24]

thegenealogist.co.uk enables searching on relationship to the head of the house by using the keyword field to enter the relationship.

Ancestry allows you to select relationship to head as well 
http://search.ancestry.co.uk/search/db.aspx?dbid=2352

Thank you .. by the way we have exactly the same dog 

[Waterloo24]

I just use http://www.1911census.co.uk/

It's a method I sometimes use when circumstances suggest we might be looking for children who are living with persons other than their birth parents.
keywords might include:
adopted
grandson/grandchild
nephew
nurse/foster child
lodger/boarder
stepson/stepchild

Thank you x

[iolaus]

You are assuming Percy's half brother was from his mother's side - just because his father wasn't listed on his birth certificate doesn't mean they didn't know who he was (of course that could well mean you are never going to find them)

[Waterloo24]

You are assuming Percy's half brother was from his mother's side - just because his father wasn't listed on his birth certificate doesn't mean they didn't know who he was (of course that could well mean you are never going to find them)

I am almost certain they had the same mother. Percy had contact with them and (John?) visited her in the asylum also.
Mum said they were full brothers and their name was Platt also but that I am not certain of.
I am hoping Percys Military records reveal something and I will order the marriage cert for John and Doris Platt .. apart from that I am still struggling.
The only thing I have for certain is her name and the fact she died around 1950 in an asylum.

[Waterloo24]

Just a quick update ... still waiting for Percy s military records.
I have been researching the Thomas boys who are indeed elusive but have today stumbled upon a birth registration for John in October 1905 in Kendal Westmoreland and his name is actually John Percy Thomas.
So the theory that these two may actually be the brothers I am looking for looks quite possible.
Cant find anything on Frederick Thomas yet but feeling a little excited so wanted to share :-) x

[rosie99]

Are you planning to send for the birth certificate for John Percy Thomas to confirm his mother

Rosie

[Waterloo24]

Hi Rosie

Yes I have ordered it.

I have now found Frederick also on July/ Aug/ Sep 1902 so have ordered that too.

Still no further trace of them apart from living with Percy in 1911.

I am really hoping they had a mother and father listed

Thanks 

[heywood]

So do I! I hope you get somewhere with this. 

Heywood