Author Topic: Percy Platt - Illegitimate/Adopted Bolton 1898  (Read 18644 times)

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Re: Percy Platt - Illegitimate/Adopted Bolton 1898
« Reply #36 on: Saturday 19 July 14 13:04 BST (UK) »
My point is that if it has been transcribed, it may not be Barton on the original.

By the way, Margaret/Maggie Platt who is boarding with the Entwistles in 1901 is a Card Tenter.
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Re: Percy Platt - Illegitimate/Adopted Bolton 1898
« Reply #37 on: Saturday 19 July 14 13:08 BST (UK) »
Presumably the only source for Barton is as Margaret's abode when she is informant of her son's birth in 1898 ???

That is given as her place of Birth,  she was living at 44 Silverwell Place in Bolton where Percy was born ... the home of the mysterious Mary Hughes but was gone by 1901.

She was not there on census night 1901 but may just have been away for the night. She was gone by 1911 probably married (or possibly she had died  :(). It is possible that Mary Hughes was attached to Percy as he had been born in her home and lived there for years, so at some stage she adopted him.

Are you able to post on here the exact wording of Percy's birth certificate. Also the couple of place names that you are unsure of? We can give you some second opinions.  ;)

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I only have the short copy here, my brother has another in the UK but I will give you what I have

Where and when born 19th Sepember 1898 44 Silverwell Lane Bolton
Name Thomas Percy
Name of Mother - Margaret Ann Platt an Operative Cotton Winder
Signature of Informant M Ann Platt (Mother) - Thought it a bit odd that she emphasized Ann

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Re: Percy Platt - Illegitimate/Adopted Bolton 1898
« Reply #38 on: Saturday 19 July 14 13:12 BST (UK) »
Did you order the certificate from the GRO? If so it might be worth buying the same certificate from the local archives, as I believe that the GRO ones are copies and on the local ones you see the original writing. I'm sure someone will correct me if I am wrong.  :)

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The one I have here I ordered on line as I am in Australia ... my brother collected one from the local records office so I am trying to work from both which is a bit confusing.
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Re: Percy Platt - Illegitimate/Adopted Bolton 1898
« Reply #39 on: Saturday 19 July 14 13:14 BST (UK) »
No mention of Barton there then?  There should be an address for the informant.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)


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Re: Percy Platt - Illegitimate/Adopted Bolton 1898
« Reply #40 on: Saturday 19 July 14 13:16 BST (UK) »
My point is that if it has been transcribed, it may not be Barton on the original.

By the way, Margaret/Maggie Platt who is boarding with the Entwistles in 1901 is a Card Tenter.

And I thought I was being clever ordering it ... seems to have raised more questions than it answered.
Was expecting a cosy mother father and baby scenario  :)

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Re: Percy Platt - Illegitimate/Adopted Bolton 1898
« Reply #41 on: Saturday 19 July 14 13:18 BST (UK) »
If your brother has the original could you ask him to scan it and send it to you?

Apologies if I am missing something here (highly likely  ::)), but where does it say that Margaret is from Barton Bolton? On the certificate your brother has?

I also did not think you could order a 'short' version of a certificate from 1898. (I have never been given this option when ordering certificates from the GRO)

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Re: Percy Platt - Illegitimate/Adopted Bolton 1898
« Reply #42 on: Saturday 19 July 14 13:18 BST (UK) »
No mention of Barton there then?  There should be an address for the informant.

No, unfortunately I have a short one that I ordered online. I sent the full one home to mum in a folder I had made when she was sick. I am getting my brother to scan it to me as that one came from the local records office and has Barton / Bardon on it.

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Re: Percy Platt - Illegitimate/Adopted Bolton 1898
« Reply #43 on: Saturday 19 July 14 13:29 BST (UK) »
Oh my goodness I feel so stupid ... his doesn't say Barton either ... I have no idea where I got that from. I must have seen it somewhere !!

His just says the same as mine.

Told you I was not very good at this .. apologies for what may be a red herring ... I shall just crawl under a rock  :-[

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Re: Percy Platt - Illegitimate/Adopted Bolton 1898
« Reply #44 on: Saturday 19 July 14 13:36 BST (UK) »
No worries - maybe in your trawlings of the censuses, you saw the ones from Barton  :)
My favourite is Maggie up to now.
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