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Re: Percy Platt - Illegitimate/Adopted Bolton 1898
« Reply #27 on: Saturday 19 July 14 12:38 BST (UK) »
Presumably the only source for Barton is as Margaret's abode when she is informant of her son's birth in 1898 ???

That is given as her place of Birth,  she was living at 44 Silverwell Place in Bolton where Percy was born ... the home of the mysterious Mary Hughes but was gone by 1901.

A mother's place of birth was not stated on birth certificates at that time (unless gratuitous information was given, which would be most unusual).  As Annette says we really need to know exactly what the wording was on the certificate as that is the only proven link to Margaret.
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Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
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Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
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Re: Percy Platt - Illegitimate/Adopted Bolton 1898
« Reply #28 on: Saturday 19 July 14 12:40 BST (UK) »
Which might make the Margaret in Barton upon Irwell a possible candidate if she did not know herself where she was born and just gave the earliest place she remembered. She is still in Barton with her parents in 1891, age 20, spinner in cotton mill. Have not yet looked for her in 1901.
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Re: Percy Platt - Illegitimate/Adopted Bolton 1898
« Reply #29 on: Saturday 19 July 14 12:43 BST (UK) »
That Margaret may be the one who married Richard Openshaw in 1894 in marriage indexes and 1901, 1911
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Re: Percy Platt - Illegitimate/Adopted Bolton 1898
« Reply #30 on: Saturday 19 July 14 12:46 BST (UK) »
It may be an error on the certificate. Is it a copy birth certificate?
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Re: Percy Platt - Illegitimate/Adopted Bolton 1898
« Reply #31 on: Saturday 19 July 14 12:53 BST (UK) »
It may be an error on the certificate. Is it a copy birth certificate?

Yes its one I ordered  ???

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Re: Percy Platt - Illegitimate/Adopted Bolton 1898
« Reply #32 on: Saturday 19 July 14 12:55 BST (UK) »
Presumably the only source for Barton is as Margaret's abode when she is informant of her son's birth in 1898 ???

That is given as her place of Birth,  she was living at 44 Silverwell Place in Bolton where Percy was born ... the home of the mysterious Mary Hughes but was gone by 1901.

She was not there on census night 1901 but may just have been away for the night. She was gone by 1911 probably married (or possibly she had died  :(). It is possible that Mary Hughes was attached to Percy as he had been born in her home and lived there for years, so at some stage she adopted him.

Are you able to post on here the exact wording of Percy's birth certificate. Also the couple of place names that you are unsure of? We can give you some second opinions.  ;)

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Re: Percy Platt - Illegitimate/Adopted Bolton 1898
« Reply #33 on: Saturday 19 July 14 12:56 BST (UK) »
Which might make the Margaret in Barton upon Irwell a possible candidate if she did not know herself where she was born and just gave the earliest place she remembered. She is still in Barton with her parents in 1891, age 20, spinner in cotton mill. Have not yet looked for her in 1901.

She was a mill worker - her occupation in 1898 was card tenter  ;D

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Re: Percy Platt - Illegitimate/Adopted Bolton 1898
« Reply #34 on: Saturday 19 July 14 12:59 BST (UK) »
Did you order the certificate from the GRO? If so it might be worth buying the same certificate from the local archives, as I believe that the GRO ones are copies and on the local ones you see the original writing. I'm sure someone will correct me if I am wrong.  :)

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Re: Percy Platt - Illegitimate/Adopted Bolton 1898
« Reply #35 on: Saturday 19 July 14 13:01 BST (UK) »
There's no reason at the moment to think there is anything wrong with the certificate.  We do need to know exactly what it says, though.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)