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German death record from 1808
« on: Friday 18 July 14 16:22 BST (UK) »
I would very much appreciate help in understanding the attached German death record from 1808.
Especially the last four sentences (beginning with "Sie war") are unclear to me.
Many thanks.

inor

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Re: German death record from 1808
« Reply #1 on: Friday 18 July 14 21:43 BST (UK) »
very hard to read but sie war = she was ...so obviously a womans death cert
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Re: German death record from 1808
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 19 July 14 00:37 BST (UK) »
Hi inor,

that is difficult to read, so hope somebody comes by and can do better.

Sie war eine gebohrene Hofmaier (Hofmann)?  sie wird? (wart) am dritt(en) desselben Monats im Bysein ihres Schwagers Johann Nikolaus ........? beerdigt, der auch gegenwärtiger Protorat, mit mir dem Pfarrer unterschrieben hat.

Looks like she was married before.
I read Maria Anna's and Nikolaus' name as Drifter, but it says Diehlen in the margin.
Don't know what a Protorat is, perhaps a Proktor. Also see here: http://genwiki.genealogy.net/Prokurator

Hope this helps,  regards Peonie

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Re: German death record from 1808
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 19 July 14 04:16 BST (UK) »
Thank you, garstonite, and thank you, Peonie.
With your kind help, I'm gradually putting this together.
Many thanks again.

Regards,
inor


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Re: German death record from 1808
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 19 July 14 06:32 BST (UK) »
hiya Inor - I see you are on line
re - Protorat ...it may mean Portrait ....any chance Nikolaus may have been an Artist or a Photographer ??
unterschrieben is "the only one " if I remember correctly ..
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Re: German death record from 1808
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 19 July 14 06:52 BST (UK) »
Hi garstonite,

This is the first time I've seen Nikolaus's name, so I don't know anything about him, but I doubt that he was an artist. 
I'm pretty sure the word unterschrieben means "undersigned".

Thanks again.

inor

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Re: German death record from 1808
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 19 July 14 07:28 BST (UK) »
OK...apologies ..I was in Germany 1979-1981 = 3 years ...but that was a long time ago ......my memory is fading fast ...lol
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Re: German death record from 1808
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 19 July 14 10:22 BST (UK) »
Hi,

Sie war eine gebohren Hofmann. Sie wurde den dritten desselben monats im beyseyn ihrer Schwagers Johann Nikolaus Diehls beerdigt, der auch gegen wärtiges Prot... (?) mit mir dem Pfarrer unterschrieben hat.
I read Hofmann --- Johann
Johann Nikolaus Diehl, brother-in-law, undersigned this death certificate with the pastor.

Augustine
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Re: German death record from 1808
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 19 July 14 10:42 BST (UK) »
Hi Augustine,

Thank you very much!  Have you any idea what the word beyseyn means?

Regards,

inor