Where in the World am I from?

[heywood]

I may have this wrong - Is the only evidence re Charles at the moment the 1880 census and the headstone?
1880 has his birth, New York but in other censuses for his children, they have Virginia as their father's birthplace.
I do realise re errors, lies and ignorance though.
Additionally, Charles, son of P &B in New York is also in 1880 census -  hasta's post.

Heywood

[MargP]

There is about a ten year difference in birth years, but this could be the same child of Charles and Catherine.

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.2.1/MCDH-YB3

Perhaps there was a typing error and the '9' should be an '8' 

The 1900 census Grover is aged 15 years  born Mar 1885
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/MMF6-PYM

It looks like an 8 on the original

[JWKanney]

I may have this wrong - Is the only evidence re Charles at the moment the 1880 census and the headstone?
1880 has his birth, New York but in other censuses for his children, they have Virginia as their father's birthplace.
I do realise re errors, lies and ignorance though.
Additionally, Charles, son of P &B in New York is also in 1880 census -  hasta's post.

Heywood

Right now that's the only evidence Heywood, but his birth place is the part that confuses me. One 1880 census has him living with the Kirbys, one of whom he eventually married; this cencus has him being born in New York. It would be a large coincidence to find another Charles K sharing a home with another Kirby family with a daugher named Catherine. At this point I don't put much stock in the gravestone, although I'm open to any and all documentation that may come up.

Was there a Census stating he was born in VA? I've seen three and they all have New York.

[JWKanney]

MargP, looks like Catherine had a thing for boarders.

[heywood]

Right now that's the only evidence Heywood, but his birth place is the part that confuses me. One 1880 census has him living with the Kirbys, one of whom he eventually married; this cencus has him being born in New York. It would be a large coincidence to find another Charles K sharing a home with another Kirby family with a daugher named Catherine. At this point I don't put much stock in the gravestone, although I'm open to any and all documentation that may come up.

Was there a Census stating he was born in VA? I've seen three and they all have New York.

I have only seen him in 1880 census. Which others do you have him in?
His children's censuses show their father born Virginia. That is if I have the right children.

[JWKanney]

Right now that's the only evidence Heywood, but his birth place is the part that confuses me. One 1880 census has him living with the Kirbys, one of whom he eventually married; this cencus has him being born in New York. It would be a large coincidence to find another Charles K sharing a home with another Kirby family with a daugher named Catherine. At this point I don't put much stock in the gravestone, although I'm open to any and all documentation that may come up.

Was there a Census stating he was born in VA? I've seen three and they all have New York.

I have only seen him in 1880 census. Which others do you have him in?
His children's censuses show their father born Virginia. That is if I have the right children.

Here are the census' I've been looking at so far:

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/MCPX-WBL
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/M8KF-WTS
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/MCPX-WBT
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/M8KF-WRY
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/MZFY-1MP

I'll have to print them off and look them over. Something doesn't seem right. Perhaps I should look into the children as well.

[heywood]

Those censuses are the 1880 twice which you know is him - with the Kirbys.

The others are the 1870 and 1880 from NY - which would then be doubtful as he is in Virginia in 1880.

[JWKanney]

Those censuses are the 1880 twice which you know is him - with the Kirbys.

The others are the 1870 and 1880 from NY - which would then be doubtful as he is in Virginia in 1880.

Could it be just a coincedence that both census' match for his age and birth location at the time? They would both have a Charles born in 1865 inside of NY. Or could he have moved to VA and been counted twice? Or is that just grasping at straws? I see that from the 1870 census to the 1880 census that Patrick only aged four years.

[heywood]

It would be good if you could find marriage details.

What information do death certificates carry?

If he died 1926, he should be on censuses after he divorced Catherine.