George albert Saunders

[familyline]

Hi,
I am looking for my Gt Uncle georges war history. I have found WW1 medal rolls index cards 1914 to 1920.
There is a number S4/1098554,692422 Reg No. can any body tell me what reg this is, and if you have any info on the regiment. I have got army service corps, labour corps. I know my uncle was gassed in the war and returned home and later died at the age of 35.
regards
lynne

[DavidJP]

Hi Lynne,

Are you sure that this is the right George Albert Saunders? I ask as there appear to be 4 Medal Cards for men of this name. As shown here on this link:  http://www.rootschat.com/links/018mj/

The George Albert Saunders that you mention appears to have started out as a private, Regimental number S4/109554 in the Army Service Corps before being attached/transferred to the Labour Corps with regimental no 692422 probably with the same rank of private.

At this time there was not a single regimental number, if you were attached/transferred then you got a new regimental number, hence the two numbers on the card.

He appears to have been awarded the Victory medal, whether he was awarded more I cannot tell as unfortunately I have no subscriptions to online sites & can only see a small portion of the card on the NA website using the preview function.

For further research, you would need to look up info on both the ASC & Labour Corps. May I suggest that using the following website for further research on these regiments as a start: http://www.1914-1918.net/

Hope the above is of some help.

Kind regards

David

[jim1]

It's possibly your man as he received the SWB for sickness under para. 392/xv1a meaning he was Surplus to military requirements having suffered impairment since entry into the service.
Issue no. 454475.
It states he is a Pte. in the Labour Corps service no. 692422 & attested 24.5.1915 & was discharged 30.12.19 under the above paragraph.
He received the BWM & VM.
His service docs. gives an address of 29 Albion Rd. Wood St. Walthamstow & age on enlistment 38.
He married Alice May Meadowcroft in 1901.
His occupation is listed as Baker.
He tried to re-enlist in 1919 but they wouldn't have him back because of his disability.
He served 2 terms in France & in between those 1 term in Italy.
However as David has said there are a number of George A Saunders also listed.
Looking again as you've put this on the Warks. board I'm assuming he came from here.
This man didn't.
So where did he come from ?

jim

[familyline]

hi jim and David,
This cant be my gt uncle George, its the only one I could find, uncle George was born abt 1899 in Birmingham, bournbrook and lived at 173 Tiverton road with his parents George and mary saunders, he was still with his parents in 1950. I know from my aunt that uncle George was gassed and when I found a George albert saunders wasn't sure if it was a Birmingham reg, George died aged 35.
thankyou for the info
regards
lynne

[familyline]

hi Jim and David,
I have been on the national archives and found a few saunders, but I don't have Ancestry anymore.
there is 3 Albert George saunders, and 1 Albert George sanders which sounds promising as they couldn't make there mind up if there name was saunders or sanders, and 2 George Albert saunders. Could some kind person possibly look these up for me. thankyou
regards
lynne

[jim1]

Am I missing something?
If he was born 1899 & died in 1950 wouldn't that make him 56?
You said he died aged 35.
In addition to the name variations there are 15 George A Saunders listed.
The Electoral Registers has the family at 15 Tiverton Rd.
In 1939 it looks like George also has a shop in Oak Tree Lane.
George doesn't appear on the 1918 Absent Voters List although his brother/uncle Jabez does.
178685 Pte. 24th. Res. Batt. R.F.A. Living with George & Mary Saunders 15 Tiverton Rd.
So George never enlisted or by 1918 he was discharged so he should be on the SWB list which should narrow the search.
jim

[familyline]

Hi Jim,
Sorry I meant his father George was there in the 1950s, my gt uncle George was in the army, Jabez is his uncle. I don't know of a shop in Oak tree lane.The picture I have of George he is in army uniform with what looks like bandages wrap around his legs, and he did die aged 35. What is SWB list. I was thinking last night about my granddad he married georges sister and he served in the1/8th worcs reg wondering if they would have perhaps gone to war together.
Thankyou for your help and time
regards
lynne

[jim1]

Does the photo you have show his cap badge, bandolier,stripes or anything that may point to a Regt. or Corps?
Can you post it on here?
The "bandages" are called puttees.
The SWB is the Silver War Badge issued to all men who were rendered unfit for further military service due to injury or illness.
First issued in 1916 & was worn on civilian clothing to demonstrate to others that the man had served.
This was to avoid confrontation by people who had men overseas.
It's unlikely they joined together as he wouldn't have gone in until 1917 at the earliest because of his age.
The time frame is a bit tight as he doesn't appear to be in the Army in 1918.

jim

[familyline]

Hi Jim,
there is only 2 years of age between George and my granddad, and my granddad is in the same uniform. On the picture of George it looks like a peak hat with a X at the front above peak and a what looks like a crown in the centre of the X at the top, and the belt looks like it is done up with a S sideways, there is nothing on the lapels or on the breast pockets. Its the same as my granddads but my granddad hasn't got a hat on. I am not very good on the computer self taught so I don't know how to send you a copy, no stripes on sleeves. thankyou for your help.
regards
lynne